F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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GPR -A wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:36

Leclerc did a 1m16.231 on C5.
Hamilton did a 1m18.097 on C2.
Using the above difference, Hamilton could have a potential 1m16.1xx on C5, which matches his pole time from last year. :)
It was a nine lap run on C2 when Hamilton did that 1m18.097. So far, I assume neither Mercedes nor Ferrari have switched on the quali mode on their PU.
I willing to bet a high 1m14.xxx to be pole time this year. More like, 1m14.8xx.

Why are you using ham C2 lap and not Leclerc 1m17.253s C2 lap?
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Big Mangalhit wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:16
NathanOlder wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 12:12
If we forget fuel for the moment, with Hamilton doing an 18.0 , that translates to a 1.16.0 with the use of the softest tyre,

has anyone gone faster with just a tyre correction ?

So i suppose lec lap translates to a 15,2 with your correction? that would be mental :shock:
why would it be mental, considering Lewis did 1.16.1 in spanish gp with c3 (supersoft) tyres

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Big Mangalhit wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:16
NathanOlder wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 12:12
If we forget fuel for the moment, with Hamilton doing an 18.0 , that translates to a 1.16.0 with the use of the softest tyre,

has anyone gone faster with just a tyre correction ?

So i suppose lec lap translates to a 15,2 with your correction? that would be mental :shock:
I wonder how much time the new track surface gives up.

If only Williams ran a 2018 car for the first 2 days, just to help us all see the true speed of the current circuit.
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GPR -A wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:36
Interesting Stat.

Link -> Pirelli reveals gaps between F1’s 2019 compounds
Pirelli's tyre gap estimate:
C1 to C2: 0.8 – 1.0 seconds
C2 to C3: 0.7 seconds
C3 to C4: 0.6 seconds
C4 to C5: 0.6 seconds

In essence,
From C1 to C5 - 2.3 Seconds
From C2 to C5 - 1.9 Seconds
From C3 to C5 - 1.2 Seconds

Leclerc did a 1m16.231 on C5.
Hamilton did a 1m18.097 on C2.
Using the above difference, Hamilton could have a potential 1m16.1xx on C5, which matches his pole time from last year. :)
It was a nine lap run on C2 when Hamilton did that 1m18.097. So far, I assume neither Mercedes nor Ferrari have switched on the quali mode on their PU.
I willing to bet a high 1m14.xxx to be pole time this year. More like, 1m14.8xx.
Lec made 1.17.253 on C2, so -1.9s = 1.15.353s could be on C5. But last year pole 1.16.1xx was made on Supersoft + this year asphalt on track is better than in 2018

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves by saying we will see 1:15.-ish for this year's pole lap.

In 2017 the quickest lap in winter testing is faster than the pole lap.

This didn't happen in 2018 because in 2018 winter testing they faced some unusually cold weather.

The 2019 condition seems closer to 2017 than to 2018.
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Leclerc warns rivals with impressive pace

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Leclerc warns rivals with impressive pace

The morning session on day 3 at Barcelona was one with a clear warning signal for Ferrari rivals, as Leclerc not only went fastest so far this test, but also showed impressive speed on harder compound tyres.

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NathanOlder wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:41
Big Mangalhit wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:16
NathanOlder wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 12:12
If we forget fuel for the moment, with Hamilton doing an 18.0 , that translates to a 1.16.0 with the use of the softest tyre,

has anyone gone faster with just a tyre correction ?

So i suppose lec lap translates to a 15,2 with your correction? that would be mental :shock:
I wonder how much time the new track surface gives up.

If only Williams ran a 2018 car for the first 2 days, just to help us all see the true speed of the current circuit.
Indeed!! I wish Williams would do this, ofc at least the wing or something they would change dunno.

Also not only the track surface but also the tyres. C5 is way softer than last year quali tyre (supersofts) and pirelli could've made softer tyres this year since we got many 1 stops last year and we see a lot of tyre deg on this year long stint test times.

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Everyone talking about Mercedes running multiple concepts this year are deluded! Anything will do in order to apply a veneer of superiority to Mercedes over anyone and everyone else.

Running multiple concepts would simply be a waste. Neither would be able to be developed as fully as a single concept. Arriving to some tracks with concept A and others with concept B would mean they’d had limited running on each, limited development on each, limited understanding of each.

Frankly, everyong lauding Mercedes for their update this week being oh so very impressive. What is the function of developing the first car at all? They claim “another week in the wind tunnel!”... fair, but it’s less a week of testing now, less a week of understanding, feel, real-world analysis. Additionally, so much is new - they’re basically back to square one this week. Very little of last weeks car, by their own admission, is the same - so how could it possibly perform and behave the same? It couldn’t possibly have the same characteristics so... what’s the point?

Seems a lot of effort was wasted developing that car at all... no? But of course if it appears to demonstrate some god like technical mastery, then it’s clever Mercedes running rings around everyone.

Fickle business this...

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Do we have a list of times that were set on C2, 3, & 4 this morning before the headline C5 times happened?

There looked to be some impressive times happening before the screens lit up with the C5 headlines.

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Big Mangalhit wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:40
Why are you using ham C2 lap and not Leclerc 1m17.253s C2 lap?
I took the best time available, on whichever compound was used by either driver. Besides, Leclerc did one single flying lap on C2 (unless I have missed something), whereas Hamilton did 9 laps on the stint. I am not saying Leclerc was on fumes and neither am I saying, Mercedes was full to the brink.

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JPBD1990 wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 14:49
Everyone talking about Mercedes running multiple concepts this year are deluded! Anything will do in order to apply a veneer of superiority to Mercedes over anyone and everyone else.
Let's just not excagerate here. People speculate. I have not read anywhere that the story with multiple concepts is proof for some sort of Mercedes superiority. Let's not dramatize conjecture.
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Fickle business indeed.

So if the others show up in Melbourne with a big updated package, are they behind the curve, with 4 days less to understand the car, or smarter than Merc. for giving themselves a few more weeks to tweak the package?

It is a trade-off, partly dependent on manufacturing capacity (Williams anyone,
or HAAS' dalara supplier?), and other factors, which every team will see slightly differently.

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I'm really, really impressed by Toro Rosso laptime :shock:
They are close to 2sec quicker than 2018 :shock:

Last year they where 2.2s away from pole position.
I definitely think they will be the team with the most progress over year

And once again, it will make a lot of noise about B teams in the paddock

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Just for reference, here are top Winter Testing times for 2018.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... er-testing

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duplicated post, read next one. Delete this pls
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