2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

[munudeges]

but yeah, it's pretty awkward and mind-boggling stupid that claire hires paydrivers, sponsors like this,
but refuse to be a b-team to mercedes. they rather dangle at the bottom and be the laughing stock.

It is a strange paradox that they talk an awful lot about being an independent team, but they put themselves into these positions with dodgy sponsors and suspect paying drivers. If you want to exist as an independent then you've got to have people at the top who understand racing and can make the right decisions. Williams just no longer have that.

[Lucky]

https://twitter.com/Motorsport/status/1 ... 80065?s=19

[threep]

When it comes to being ready for the first test, I wonder how many TDs when seeing Williams’ predicament thought.... there but for the grace of God go I?

[marmer]

I bet people like ocon are glad they are not in this mess feel sorry for kubica and Russell for no part of there own they might be about to race for the new manor F1 in performance terms and maybe even budget

[Espresso]

https://twitter.com/Motorsport/status/1 ... 80065?s=19

Pffff in a racing world politics has no place....

PL would be like an interim manager used by the board to identify en oust out unwanted elements....and as the final blow-out/kick-off send out the interim manager....You clean up the house....and blame the interim for it..

...ooow wait....Jonathan Williams got siderailed (go directly into a lifelong jailed corner...and Sis Claire mobbed the shop.....Williams is a political entity.....

...now that story makes totally sense now...
PL sacrified...politcally not strong enough. Eaten by sharks.....

[SimonFW11b]

Missed Apex is reporting that Williams is approaching other teams for parts to get two cars built for Melbourne. Stroll's money is being withheld due to a dispute, Polish money not flowing.

If any of this is true, God help us.

[b2bL44]

Missed Apex is reporting that Williams is approaching other teams for parts to get two cars built for Melbourne. Stroll's money is being withheld due to a dispute, Polish money not flowing.

If any of this is true, God help us.

Timestamp on the podcast please?

[Manoah2u]

Missed Apex is reporting that Williams is approaching other teams for parts to get two cars built for Melbourne. Stroll's money is being withheld due to a dispute, Polish money not flowing.

If any of this is true, God help us.

Offcourse this is true, there is nowhere left to go for williams.
it's all their own fault, i really can't let a tear flow.

there has been no statement from Williams at all about how they're gonna handle things,
or appoint somebody. same head-in-the-sand behaviour and denial.

[FW17]

I dont think Stroll would have been released without the money

Missed Apex are just speculating with no base. It is more of case of missed deadlines and designs outside the regulations

[skwdenyer]

I dont think Stroll would have been released without the money

Missed Apex are just speculating with no base. It is more of case of missed deadlines and designs outside the regulations

There are plausible rumours floating around of requests not for parts per se, but specific materials necessary to manufacture carbon parts. Rumours with enough detail to be surprising if made up.

[FW17]

That is not possible

Other than the brakes nothing else will fit the car

[Raleigh]

I dont think Stroll would have been released without the money

Missed Apex are just speculating with no base. It is more of case of missed deadlines and designs outside the regulations

There are plausible rumours floating around of requests not for parts per se, but specific materials necessary to manufacture carbon parts. Rumours with enough detail to be surprising if made up.

Sounds more possible, parts wouldn't be directly compatible and rules limit what can be shared in the first place.

Suppliers have been burnt in the past by teams going under, they will be wary of advancing too much credit.

If any of this is true even if Williams gets two cars on track they will be severely limited on spare parts.

[GrandAxe]

Missed Apex is reporting that Williams is approaching other teams for parts to get two cars built for Melbourne. Stroll's money is being withheld due to a dispute, Polish money not flowing.

If any of this is true, God help us.

Sadly this is an increasingly tragic ending for one of F1's iconic teams. Even if its just a rumour, poaching bits from other teams is off the cliff, not something that one would associate with a multiple F1 record holder. First their nomination to build the mule for Pirelli (cos they're so far behind that no other team excepts them to gain an advantage), now this.

Their management is wholly to blame.
Williams desperately needs to be taken over by a top team that can ruthlessly axe dead wood and inject fresh blood.

It would seem that Paddy Lowe timed his exit perfectly. Cars made up of all sorts of exotic bits reminds me of the wacky Races.

[skwdenyer]

Missed Apex is reporting that Williams is approaching other teams for parts to get two cars built for Melbourne. Stroll's money is being withheld due to a dispute, Polish money not flowing.

If any of this is true, God help us.

Sadly this is an increasingly tragic ending for one of F1's iconic teams. Even if its just a rumour, poaching bits from other teams is off the cliff, not something that one would associate with a multiple F1 record holder. First their nomination to build the mule for Pirelli (cos they're so far behind that no other team excepts them to gain an advantage), now this.

In retrospect, I wasn't sure if the nomination to build the mule was actually a way of channeling some cash their way as much as it was a snub.

[KeiKo403]

Missed Apex is reporting that Williams is approaching other teams for parts to get two cars built for Melbourne. Stroll's money is being withheld due to a dispute, Polish money not flowing.

If any of this is true, God help us.

Sadly this is an increasingly tragic ending for one of F1's iconic teams. Even if its just a rumour, poaching bits from other teams is off the cliff, not something that one would associate with a multiple F1 record holder. First their nomination to build the mule for Pirelli (cos they're so far behind that no other team excepts them to gain an advantage), now this.

In retrospect, I wasn't sure if the nomination to build the mule was actually a way of channeling some cash their way as much as it was a snub.

If there was anyway of a team gaining additional cash for making a mule car then teams like HAAS & Racing Point would definitely be fighting for the extra cash. Not saying Williams can have the money.

If anything it's likely a combination of the team not being much of a threat and them not having any massive alliance with a top 3 team/engine provider. Although the do have links to M-AMG it's nothing like the Ferrari->HASS / RBR->STR model.