2019 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 29 - 31

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Mach wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 14:10
Okay, so Ferrari thinks the cooling system may have caused their poor Australian performance. Should be an easy fix....no?
If cooling means the car is slow around corners, has poor traction and is unable to cope with bumps.... then yeah an easy fix via cooling improvements :lol:

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Mach wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 14:10
Okay, so Ferrari thinks the cooling system may have caused their poor Australian performance. Should be an easy fix....no?
No one from Ferrari has told anything regarding cooling issues. So I wonder where you got this from.

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LM10 wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 14:15
Mach wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 14:10
Okay, so Ferrari thinks the cooling system may have caused their poor Australian performance. Should be an easy fix....no?
No one from Ferrari has told anything regarding cooling issues. So I wonder where you got this from.
I just wanted to perpetuate Marco's rumor...and see if he's right..

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djones wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 14:13
Mach wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 14:10
Okay, so Ferrari thinks the cooling system may have caused their poor Australian performance. Should be an easy fix....no?
If cooling means the car is slow around corners, has poor traction and is unable to cope with bumps.... then yeah an easy fix via cooling improvements :lol:
:lol:

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What ever it takes to fix the problem, It will probably be a compromise somewhere.
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Well, "rumor" also has it that because Ferrari knew they'd suffer engine power problem, they were forced to choose a low downforce setup at Aus GP for compensating straight line speed.

But from quali telemetry Ferrari was just as quick as Mercedes through high-speed corners, so that part of the rumor doesn't sound legit.

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yelistener wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 15:23
Well, "rumor" also has it that because Ferrari knew they'd suffer engine power problem, they were forced to choose a low downforce setup at Aus GP for compensating straight line speed.

But from quali telemetry Ferrari was just as quick as Mercedes through high-speed corners, so that part of the rumor doesn't sound legit.
- With their regular DF levels they'd have been annihilating Merc in HS corners that were barely there in the first place :wink:.
- I for one am glad that Ferrari did a Newey with their cooling/packaging because it renders all the demonizing Australia as some impossible to get right and completely unrepresentative track useless.
- About some earlier post counting corner speeds and judging Bahrain and Australia as similar. A. not only speed but type of corners matters (length, radius). B. Limiting to layout - middle section is enough to make Bahrain different enough IMO.

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Little facts given out by Formula One's site that are fun/interesting:

1. If Hamilton takes pole at this race, he'll have more poles than the rest of the field combined. Which is quite shocking, really.

2. Bottas has never been out-qualified by a team mate at Bahrain.

3. Vettel has most Bahrain poles in the current field, having 3 to Hamilton's 2.

4. Only Vettel and Hamilton have won at Bahrain in the current field. 4:2 to Vettel.

5. Ferrari have won 6:3 compared to Mercedes and only those two teams have won here in the hybrid era.

6. No RedBull driver has even led a lap at Bahrain since 2014 (i.e. in the hybrid era). They haven't qualified top three or finished on the podium in that time, either.

7. No one has ever won here starting outside the top four places on the grid.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:23
Little facts given out by Formula One's site that are fun/interesting:

1. If Hamilton takes pole at this race, he'll have more poles than the rest of the field combined. Which is quite shocking, really.

2. Bottas has never been out-qualified by a team mate at Bahrain.

3. Vettel has most Bahrain poles in the current field, having 3 to Hamilton's 2.

4. Only Vettel and Hamilton have won at Bahrain in the current field. 4:2 to Vettel.

5. Ferrari have won 6:3 compared to Mercedes and only those two teams have won here in the hybrid era.

6. No RedBull driver has even led a lap at Bahrain since 2014 (i.e. in the hybrid era). They haven't qualified top three or finished on the podium in that time, either.

7. No one has ever won here starting outside the top four places on the grid.
How does number 1 combine with number 3?

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they are unrelated. Hamilton has like 80 or so poles? dunno, humongous amount, more then everybody else together (that takes part in this weeks Bahrein grand prix) apparently (if he successfully claims pole again (that was the newsfact 1)). Vettel just has more poles here (that was point 3).

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LM10 wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:39
Just_a_fan wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:23
Little facts given out by Formula One's site that are fun/interesting:

1. If Hamilton takes pole at this race, he'll have more poles than the rest of the field combined. Which is quite shocking, really.

2. Bottas has never been out-qualified by a team mate at Bahrain.

3. Vettel has most Bahrain poles in the current field, having 3 to Hamilton's 2.

4. Only Vettel and Hamilton have won at Bahrain in the current field. 4:2 to Vettel.

5. Ferrari have won 6:3 compared to Mercedes and only those two teams have won here in the hybrid era.

6. No RedBull driver has even led a lap at Bahrain since 2014 (i.e. in the hybrid era). They haven't qualified top three or finished on the podium in that time, either.

7. No one has ever won here starting outside the top four places on the grid.
How does number 1 combine with number 3?
Hamilton has more poles than the field put together , as in his total amount of poles. Not just in Bahrain.
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Dauum.. That #1 stat is mad. :shock: :shock: :shock: :o

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NathanOlder wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:49
LM10 wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:39
Just_a_fan wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:23
Little facts given out by Formula One's site that are fun/interesting:

1. If Hamilton takes pole at this race, he'll have more poles than the rest of the field combined. Which is quite shocking, really.

2. Bottas has never been out-qualified by a team mate at Bahrain.

3. Vettel has most Bahrain poles in the current field, having 3 to Hamilton's 2.

4. Only Vettel and Hamilton have won at Bahrain in the current field. 4:2 to Vettel.

5. Ferrari have won 6:3 compared to Mercedes and only those two teams have won here in the hybrid era.

6. No RedBull driver has even led a lap at Bahrain since 2014 (i.e. in the hybrid era). They haven't qualified top three or finished on the podium in that time, either.

7. No one has ever won here starting outside the top four places on the grid.
How does number 1 combine with number 3?
Hamilton has more poles than the field put together , as in his total amount of poles. Not just in Bahrain.
that only shows how dominant mercs have been in the last few years ..... and that stat should be concerning for the sport

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LM10 wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:39


How does number 1 combine with number 3?
1. is career poles, 3. is Bahrain poles.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Capharol wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 21:34
NathanOlder wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:49
LM10 wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 18:39


How does number 1 combine with number 3?
Hamilton has more poles than the field put together , as in his total amount of poles. Not just in Bahrain.
that only shows how dominant mercs have been in the last few years ..... and that stat should be concerning for the sport
Nope. Hamilton is special.