I think they should have gone with one extra medium and one less soft.
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I think they should have gone with one extra medium and one less soft.
Exactly my thoughts as well. ...rogazilla wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 15:31I don't know if people wants to see cars driving around all polite or actually watch racers race. The fine line between a brilliant move and a reckless move is very thin and it takes 2 drivers to define it. Looking back at Senna's races, is he a brilliant driver or someone who cause too many accidents? How about the move Alonso pulled on Schumacher in Suzuka at 130R and if Schumacher had close the door on him?
I think in the past the stewards have had made too many racing incident into penalties. This race has been very refreshing to see many of the incidents deemed racing incidents.
In Bahrain they had no new soft tires for the race, so Norris put on used soft at the end. Could be they are planning to run a similar programme so they are compensating for that fact. Still, it's quite strange to be only team with 9 sets of softs.Ground Effect wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 15:37I think they should have gone with one extra medium and one less soft.
I don’t think anyone wants cars “driving politely”... But when “everyone” makes a comment from a driver saying: “You just don’t try and pass “X” driver”... What they are really saying is, that the driver much rather screw his race and yours than let you get by... That’s immaturity from “X” driver, plain and simple and the rest of the drivers have to be extra careful with him because they do care about making it to the finish line.rogazilla wrote:I don't know if people wants to see cars driving around all polite or actually watch racers race. The fine line between a brilliant move and a reckless move is very thin and it takes 2 drivers to define it. Looking back at Senna's races, is he a brilliant driver or someone who cause too many accidents? How about the move Alonso pulled on Schumacher in Suzuka at 130R and if Schumacher had close the door on him?
I think in the past the stewards have had made too many racing incident into penalties. This race has been very refreshing to see many of the incidents deemed racing incidents.
Well said.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 16:04I don’t think anyone wants cars “driving politely”... But when “everyone” makes a comment from a driver saying: “You just don’t try and pass “X” driver”... What they are really saying is, that the driver much rather screw his race and yours than let you get by... That’s immaturity from “X” driver, plain and simple and the rest of the drivers have to be extra careful with him because they do care about making it to the finish line.rogazilla wrote:I don't know if people wants to see cars driving around all polite or actually watch racers race. The fine line between a brilliant move and a reckless move is very thin and it takes 2 drivers to define it. Looking back at Senna's races, is he a brilliant driver or someone who cause too many accidents? How about the move Alonso pulled on Schumacher in Suzuka at 130R and if Schumacher had close the door on him?
I think in the past the stewards have had made too many racing incident into penalties. This race has been very refreshing to see many of the incidents deemed racing incidents.
Like I said, I don’t think Max carries any “blame” for the incident, but he could have avoided if he wanted to... He was extremely lucky (he could have had a puncture also, he could have lost his front wing, he could have spun, etc)... The fact that he was “lucky” and able to continue the race doesn’t make him a “Genius” or a Great Driver.
So far Max has been lucky enough to be in a car that has been very superior to everyone in the midfield and has been fighting for position with drivers that were looking after a WDC and WCC (Mercedes and Ferrari) while RBH wasn’t fighting for either... Eventually this is going to change because:
A) Red Bull improves: If the RBH becomes a title contender and WDC and/or WCC are a possibility, Max will have to make sure he gets the car to the finish line, with “something to loose” (reality is he has had nothing to loose up to this point, running comfortably as the third team in the grid) he will have to tone it down or he will be forced by his team to tone it down since the points will actually matter.
B) The Midfield improves: When was the last time we saw a Midfield car actually bring the fight to RBH? If the Midfield keeps improving and they are at fighting distance of RBH, his current “aggressive” driving will be his Achilles Heel since some of those guys will also be aggressive and that won’t end well... Guys like Magnussen, GRO, Kimi, Ricciardo or Sainz will probably not care much about getting their elbows out too.
I’m all for watching some awesome racing (which I believe Bahrain had plenty) and hopefully we will get more of it this season... Looking forward to the next few races!
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14 weeks before the weekend. Not a wise choice in my opinion. 2 stop is probably the faster strategy given cars are easier to overtake - as witnessed in Bahrain - and China has historically been tough on the tyres. Medium will probably be the preferred race tyre again but who knows, since the hard is c2 - unlike in Sakhir - it might be better.
Capharol wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 15:38Exactly my thoughts as well. ...rogazilla wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 15:31I don't know if people wants to see cars driving around all polite or actually watch racers race. The fine line between a brilliant move and a reckless move is very thin and it takes 2 drivers to define it. Looking back at Senna's races, is he a brilliant driver or someone who cause too many accidents? How about the move Alonso pulled on Schumacher in Suzuka at 130R and if Schumacher had close the door on him?
I think in the past the stewards have had made too many racing incident into penalties. This race has been very refreshing to see many of the incidents deemed racing incidents.
I even dare to say most drivers and Fans became pussies after all these years, they don't know what real driving is anymore
Let's be honest. Red Bull's season for the title is already done. Everyone acted like they had great pace in Melbourne. They had the exact same gap to pole as in Bahrain, but were lucky that Hamilton damaged his car and both Ferrari were having some kind of issue. I'm sure they will improve, but those changes will come too late and losing their FW will make it even harder to close the gap.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 16:04I don’t think anyone wants cars “driving politely”... But when “everyone” makes a comment from a driver saying: “You just don’t try and pass “X” driver”... What they are really saying is, that the driver much rather screw his race and yours than let you get by... That’s immaturity from “X” driver, plain and simple and the rest of the drivers have to be extra careful with him because they do care about making it to the finish line.rogazilla wrote:I don't know if people wants to see cars driving around all polite or actually watch racers race. The fine line between a brilliant move and a reckless move is very thin and it takes 2 drivers to define it. Looking back at Senna's races, is he a brilliant driver or someone who cause too many accidents? How about the move Alonso pulled on Schumacher in Suzuka at 130R and if Schumacher had close the door on him?
I think in the past the stewards have had made too many racing incident into penalties. This race has been very refreshing to see many of the incidents deemed racing incidents.
Like I said, I don’t think Max carries any “blame” for the incident, but he could have avoided if he wanted to... He was extremely lucky (he could have had a puncture also, he could have lost his front wing, he could have spun, etc)... The fact that he was “lucky” and able to continue the race doesn’t make him a “Genius” or a Great Driver.
So far Max has been lucky enough to be in a car that has been very superior to everyone in the midfield and has been fighting for position with drivers that were looking after a WDC and WCC (Mercedes and Ferrari) while RBH wasn’t fighting for either... Eventually this is going to change because:
A) Red Bull improves: If the RBH becomes a title contender and WDC and/or WCC are a possibility, Max will have to make sure he gets the car to the finish line, with “something to loose” (reality is he has had nothing to loose up to this point, running comfortably as the third team in the grid) he will have to tone it down or he will be forced by his team to tone it down since the points will actually matter.
B) The Midfield improves: When was the last time we saw a Midfield car actually bring the fight to RBH? If the Midfield keeps improving and they are at fighting distance of RBH, his current “aggressive” driving will be his Achilles Heel since some of those guys will also be aggressive and that won’t end well... Guys like Magnussen, GRO, Kimi, Ricciardo or Sainz will probably not care much about getting their elbows out too.
I’m all for watching some awesome racing (which I believe Bahrain had plenty) and hopefully we will get more of it this season... Looking forward to the next few races!
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alonso knew that schumacher had respect for other drivers. if it was verstappen he likely wouldnt have made that move. hes said as much about the move in 130r. you are right that it takes 2 drivers, and without two drivers that you know arent going to make childish and impulsive moves every time they are going to be passed, youll likely have less drivers willing to take the chance.rogazilla wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 15:31I don't know if people wants to see cars driving around all polite or actually watch racers race. The fine line between a brilliant move and a reckless move is very thin and it takes 2 drivers to define it. Looking back at Senna's races, is he a brilliant driver or someone who cause too many accidents? How about the move Alonso pulled on Schumacher in Suzuka at 130R and if Schumacher had close the door on him?
I think in the past the stewards have had made too many racing incident into penalties. This race has been very refreshing to see many of the incidents deemed racing incidents.