2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[dp12]

Spain shall be another good one for us if the upgrades work. Hopefully we shall be P7 even better if we are P7 and P8

[SmallSoldier]

Im only regret is the gap to 3 top teams in race trim we were 2s slower per lap and its huge we need a lot more downforce we are competing against jet fighters the speed that Merc Ferra and Redb have is crasy in baku in particular lets wait for barcelona now and dream about a magic upgrade to take us closer to the 3 super teams

Forget about the top 3, without a budget cap they can't compete with them. I'm sure they are capable of closing the gap of two seconds somewhat, but fighting, nah. They are getting outspend 5:3.

The team has definitely closed the gap to the top 3 compared to last season at every track so far... Yes, there is still a huge task ahead, but is trending on the right direction... So far the season is shaping way better than the previous one and we are starting to expect the team to be in Q3 most often than not... Let’s keep pushing!


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[willmesquita]

I believe, we had a better pace than Perez. Thing is Mercedes PU gives a lot at straights, otherwise Norris had be p6 more closer to the leaders.

[Macklaren]

The good news is that the first 4 tracks are all very unique and very different from one another. And yet we have been consistently the 4th/5th fastest team and not too far behind third. That augurs very well for the rest of the season

[f1rules]

yeah i agree

The good news is that the first 4 tracks are all very unique and very different from one another. And yet we have been consistently the 4th/5th fastest team and not too far behind third. That augurs very well for the rest of the season

[Ground Effect]

Did McLaren get the fastest pit stop?

[Dextercitox]

The good news is that the first 4 tracks are all very unique and very different from one another. And yet we have been consistently the 4th/5th fastest team and not too far behind third. That augurs very well for the rest of the season

Absolutely agree, car has been very competitive in race trim and if the updates at BCN works as expected I think we can be 4th best team in almost every track.

[zoroastar]

sainz mentioned after the race that perez somehow found 2 seconds per lap after the VSC, and stroll was catching norris after he switched to softs. not sure if that had to do with norris hitting the wall. but perez said that he was running full tilt for the whole race to keep the mclarens behind him. i wonder if losing the tow that our cars had before the pitstop killed our chances to get perez in the end? seems like we just ran out of steam after that. good race regardless.

[SmallSoldier]

sainz mentioned after the race that perez somehow found 2 seconds per lap after the VSC, and stroll was catching norris after he switched to softs. not sure if that had to do with norris hitting the wall. but perez said that he was running full tilt for the whole race to keep the mclarens behind him. i wonder if losing the tow that our cars had before the pitstop killed our chances to get perez in the end? seems like we just ran out of steam after that. good race regardless.

Norris hit the wall coming out of his second stop, that will most probably made him go slower, not only to avoid putting stress into parts that could be cracked, but mentally you are also more cautious to prevent another issue... If we add that to the fact that the soft tires weren’t performing as expected due to temperatures and degrading fast, there is no surprise that he lowered his rhythm and managed the gap to Stroll until the end of the race (there is also engine and fuel saving involved I’m sure).

In regards to Sainz, my guess is that at some point the team realized that there wasn’t enough pace to stick the move and Perez drove brilliantly! He didn’t made a mistake all race, no lock ups and manage to focus on creating a gap big enough on sector 2 to avoid DRS.

We have to also consider that Sainz spent most of the race between 1.5 and 2.5 seconds of both Norris and Perez and that had to have a negative effect on his tires towards the end of the race.


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[_cerber1]

An article about limiting engine power, from AMuS. You can imagine where we were with full power.

Renault is the breather still ahead. The drivers of the factory team and McLaren in Barcelona are likely to face the first engine changes. Even in Baku will drive the four cars with Renault engines with reduced power. "We were a bit too aggressive in the first three races and we paid for it," admits team boss Cyril Abiteboul.

The damage occurred mainly in the MGU-K, but this affects the engines themselves. "With these engines," says Abiteboul, "everything hangs together. We will also make changes to the combustion engine to make the overall package more stable. Then we can drive more often with more power. "So the same tactic as Honda.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... eit-power/

[Capharol]

The good news is that the first 4 tracks are all very unique and very different from one another. And yet we have been consistently the 4th/5th fastest team and not too far behind third. That augurs very well for the rest of the season

I am not here to gloat or anything.... i just wanna let you see that McLaren is far from "not too far behind third"

lets recap the first 4 races with the 3rd fastest car the red bull
Australia: +1 lap (so over 60 sec)
Bahrain: 39 sec.
China: +1 lap (so over 60 sec again)
Azerbadjain: 66 sec

ok I take in account that in China Sainz had a collision which had impact on his car....
but McLaren is far away from being close to third

[SmallSoldier]

The good news is that the first 4 tracks are all very unique and very different from one another. And yet we have been consistently the 4th/5th fastest team and not too far behind third. That augurs very well for the rest of the season

I am not here to gloat or anything.... i just wanna let you see that McLaren is far from "not too far behind third"

lets recap the first 4 races with the 3rd fastest car the red bull
Australia: +1 lap (so over 60 sec)
Bahrain: 39 sec.
China: +1 lap (so over 60 sec again)
Azerbadjain: 66 sec

ok I take in account that in China Sainz had a collision which had impact on his car....
but McLaren is far away from being close to third

They aren’t close to third, that’s true... But they are getting closer at every race.

Last year in Baku, the best Mclaren was 2.099 seconds from the best Red Bull in qualifying... This year they were 0.817 seconds from the bes Red Bull in qualifying.

They have consistently trimmed the gap to third... Still a lot to improve if they want to fight Red Bull... But taking the delta at the end of the race as a measure it’s non-representative since the gap at the end of the race depends on a lot of factors beyond performance:

Tire Strategy / Pit Stops
Tire preservation (most cars need to stay away from the turbulence of the car in front if they need to save / manage their tires... Which will make them match the pace of the car in front of them if they don’t have a sufficient performance advantage to make a pass)
Traffic (for example, Norris coming behind GIO in Australia)
Safety Cars
Car Damage
How long do you push (for example, Norris stop pushing after hitting the wall in Baku).
Etc, etc, etc...

If the time Delta at the end of the race would be representative, is Ferrari 42 seconds slower than Red Bull (gap between Leclerc and Verstappen at the end of the race)?




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[Ground Effect]

Sainz after the race, from SkyF1 website.

"The car is responding, it's decent in qualifying and even better in the race. That means we can fight in the race," Sainz told Sky F1.
"The car responds well but we still need to improve every single area, there's not one area we cannot improve.
"We're still one second off the pace of where we want to be which is the leaders but at least we are in Q3 and in the points, double points finishes - the first for a long time - we are getting there."

I think it's important that they stress there's still a very long way to go. As far as I'm concerned, we're not in the same class as the top 3, for multiple reasons. We definitely won't trouble them soon. It's a big enough challenge securing 4th, which would be a solid effort, because the midfield is probably the tightest it's ever been. There's a reason Zak has a 5 year plan, that's because returning to the front won't happen this year, or next and so on.

[fouad1979]

Sainz after the race, from SkyF1 website.

"The car is responding, it's decent in qualifying and even better in the race. That means we can fight in the race," Sainz told Sky F1.
"The car responds well but we still need to improve every single area, there's not one area we cannot improve.
"We're still one second off the pace of where we want to be which is the leaders but at least we are in Q3 and in the points, double points finishes - the first for a long time - we are getting there."

I think it's important that they stress there's still a very long way to go. As far as I'm concerned, we're not in the same class as the top 3, for multiple reasons. We definitely won't trouble them soon. It's a big enough challenge securing 4th, which would be a solid effort, because the midfield is probably the tightest it's ever been. There's a reason Zak has a 5 year plan, that's because returning to the front won't happen this year, or next and so on.

To find a lot downforce there is 2 solutions the 1 time and money and as he said 5 years is the plan to return to the front or the 2 a genius in aero , some said that james is newey jr so lets wait and see

[SmallSoldier]

Mclaren fans are still trying to convince themselves that it was a great idea to damp Honda .Max was setting fastest lap after after fastest lap can Mclaren honestly match that if u think they are closer to third mclaren was racing torro rosso if kyvat didn't bin it he could have been within that midfield region. If redbull fix their tyre warmup issues they can fight for victories u can't say that for mac

I do believe that Mclaren dumping Honda was the right decision when it was made... And so far, I don’t think they would be better than they are if they wouldn’t have done so.

Mclaren is “closer to third than they were last season”... I don’t think anyone is saying that they are at Red Bull’s level... They are still a good 0.8 - 1 second away... But, they have definitely closed the gap year on year.

In Baku, Mclaren never really fight Toro Rosso, after both Mclaren’s passed Kvyat, that was the last time they raced the STR’s and their race was solely against Perez (there was a considerable gap to 9th - 10th for most of the race... To the point that Norris made a pitstop during the VSC and came back behind Sainz.


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