2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[diffuser]

Does anyone know if Peter Prodromou is still with the team? The management team on the teams website has been updated to include Seidl and Key but no reference to PP.

https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/team/#management

He's not management. Seems like they've gotten rid of entire technical department section from website.

Yep, He falls under Keys.

[RonDennis]

Spain will be the first race with Seidl as team principal.

[willmesquita]

Enjoy: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019 ... ssion=true

[RonDennis]

Enjoy: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019 ... ssion=true

The company is doing great. Good read.

[Xero]

Enjoy: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019 ... ssion=true

The company is doing great. Good read.

Absolutely! McLaren as a whole in seriously good shape moving forward.

To continue a point made earlier, the F1 and Automotive groups may be run separately, but they fall under the same umbrella. The Automotive profits help drive the F1 team, and Applied Technologies research, that was it's intended purpose. It's undoubtedly grown way beyond their initial expectations into it's own separate identity, but their image and prestige is still driven by the F1 operation. They will always feed off each other, money or otherwise.

[BrunoH]

yap, Ron Dennis, knew what he was doing....

[diffuser]

Enjoy: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019 ... ssion=true

The company is doing great. Good read.

Absolutely! McLaren as a whole in seriously good shape moving forward.

To continue a point made earlier, the F1 and Automotive groups may be run separately, but they fall under the same umbrella. The Automotive profits help drive the F1 team, and Applied Technologies research, that was it's intended purpose. It's undoubtedly grown way beyond their initial expectations into it's own separate identity, but their image and prestige is still driven by the F1 operation. They will always feed off each other, money or otherwise.

I agree, this year's car is superior to last year's. I don't believe the situation at Mclaren was as dire as some people have made it out to be last year and I'm reluctant to say thing were that much better when this car was designed. This year's car was pretty much designed by the same people that designed last year's, + or - one or two people is not a big change in personnel between March 2018 and March 2019. It's not a far stretch to say that this car could have been built with no personnel changes at all.


I think when you lack budget compared to other teams, you take short cuts. Short cuts leave you vulnerable. Sometime those vulnerabilities are exposed other times they aren't. By their own admission, they missed stuff in CFD.

[M840TR]

The company is doing great. Good read.

Absolutely! McLaren as a whole in seriously good shape moving forward.

To continue a point made earlier, the F1 and Automotive groups may be run separately, but they fall under the same umbrella. The Automotive profits help drive the F1 team, and Applied Technologies research, that was it's intended purpose. It's undoubtedly grown way beyond their initial expectations into it's own separate identity, but their image and prestige is still driven by the F1 operation. They will always feed off each other, money or otherwise.

I agree, this year's car is superior to last year's. I don't believe the situation at Mclaren was as dire as some people have made it out to be last year and I'm reluctant to say thing were that much better when this car was designed. This year's car was pretty much designed by the same people that designed last year's, + or - one or two people is not a big change in personnel between March 2018 and March 2019. It's not a far stretch to say that this car could have been built with no personnel changes at all.

I think when you lack budget compared to other teams, you take short cuts. Short cuts leave you vulnerable. Sometime those vulnerabilities are exposed other times they aren't. By their own admission, they missed stuff in CFD.

I'd reckon getting rid of your team principle, technical & engineering director is a pretty big change.

[diffuser]

Absolutely! McLaren as a whole in seriously good shape moving forward.

To continue a point made earlier, the F1 and Automotive groups may be run separately, but they fall under the same umbrella. The Automotive profits help drive the F1 team, and Applied Technologies research, that was it's intended purpose. It's undoubtedly grown way beyond their initial expectations into it's own separate identity, but their image and prestige is still driven by the F1 operation. They will always feed off each other, money or otherwise.

I agree, this year's car is superior to last year's. I don't believe the situation at Mclaren was as dire as some people have made it out to be last year and I'm reluctant to say thing were that much better when this car was designed. This year's car was pretty much designed by the same people that designed last year's, + or - one or two people is not a big change in personnel between March 2018 and March 2019. It's not a far stretch to say that this car could have been built with no personnel changes at all.

I think when you lack budget compared to other teams, you take short cuts. Short cuts leave you vulnerable. Sometime those vulnerabilities are exposed other times they aren't. By their own admission, they missed stuff in CFD.

I'd reckon getting rid of your team principle, technical & engineering director is a pretty big change.

It would be if they would have done that.
-chief technical officer Tim Goss was removed from his position and later quit.
-racing director Eric Boullier Left.
+Sporting Director GIL DE FERRAN
To me they took the people that were under those 2 and just made them director positions interim.

+Added Pat Fry in Sept of 2018


POST START of 2019
+TECHNICAL DIRECTOR James Keys
+TEAM PRINCIPAL Andreas Seidl
The other 2 have come on line this year. I doubt they've done much yet.

[Darth-Piekus]

Except from the biased user that likes to trash talk Renault what people generally think about Renault? Have they evolved? Will they provide a better engine in the distant future for Mclaren?

[Macklaren]

Except from the biased user that likes to trash talk Renault what people generally think about Renault? Have they evolved? Will they provide a better engine in the distant future for Mclaren?

Good question but I think will only become an issue when McLaren can really fight for the championship. The Renault engine is already a proven race winner so that will be the team's first goal

[_cerber1]

At first glance, there are no questions to the power of Renault, but there are questions with reliability.

[RonDennis]

Except from the biased user that likes to trash talk Renault what people generally think about Renault? Have they evolved? Will they provide a better engine in the distant future for Mclaren?

I think the engine is fine performance wise and the reliability should be fixed in Spain, although we'll have to wait and see. The most timed should be gained with chassis updates and Renault will eventually get it right, similar to the V8/V10 era. There is only so much you can do.

[diffuser]

Except from the biased user that likes to trash talk Renault what people generally think about Renault? Have they evolved? Will they provide a better engine in the distant future for Mclaren?

I think the engine is fine performance wise and the reliability should be fixed in Spain, although we'll have to wait and see. The most timed should be gained with chassis updates and Renault will eventually get it right, similar to the V8/V10 era. There is only so much you can do.

I agree, the power is hard to tell where they are, they seem to be even with everyone else. Reliability is hard to refute.

They may have made big power gains in the off season like they say OR some of that just comes with the relaxing of the rules of how much fuel you can start the race with.

The lack of reliability suggests a major change with not as much testing as they would have liked. So maybe...

[Darth-Piekus]

Renault was always a powerhouse throughout their history and in my opinion much more than Honda who apart from the 80s hasn't produced something equal in results back when they were Bar Honda or in the new Turbo Era. I am confident that Renault will provide sooner or later the correct package. The only problem is how fast will they do that cause if they do the mistakes of Honda I don't see them lasting long with Mclaren. F1 is not a charity and to be a part of a top team you need to deliver.