2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

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Shakeman
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Wow, Merc are really in a class of their own.

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Haas is surprisingly close to Ferrari. Maybe there is still some hope :-)

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sAx wrote:
11 May 2019, 12:01
netoperek wrote:
11 May 2019, 03:58
sAx wrote:
10 May 2019, 22:34


Team-mate besting you by 0.5sec in the chassis you think has a problem doesn't sound great. Should also give a lot of credit to George Russell he's a very serious talent, even if Kubica is not the Kubica he once was!!
George indeed is very talented, no doubt about it. You can't really say though that he beat Kubica by 0.5s unless You say that softs and more rubber on track during FP2's were only 0.1s faster than mediums on FP1 (that's the difference in Kubica's lap times between the sessions). It's only FP, too soon to draw conclusions I'd say.
Referring to chassis here! Specifically, the one that Kubica said had an imbalance issue, which in Russell's hands in FP2 sort of suggests otherwise.
I get it, thing is, it's quite shady what floors/monocoque set exactly are they're driving, as there has been some condtradictory statesments (I counted 4 different versions ;)). Roberts problems, confirmed by Williams and apparently evident on telemetry data, resulted from broken floor AND monocoque with improper stiffness, so essentially crap car :) Actually, the only info that has been somewhat consistent has been that Robert is running chassis #3 (the one George got after drain cover accident), as for George it has been said that he is running new chassis, fixed chassis from his previous GPs, fixed Robert's chassis (that he said himself). I don't know which one is true, because all of that came from Williams

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yelistener wrote:
11 May 2019, 11:21
Juzh wrote:
11 May 2019, 10:31
bottas vs hamilton fp2
https://streamable.com/lowgx
https://streamable.com/lowgx
Bot didn't go flatout through T9 like Lewis did. Probably was worrying about the dirty air from the car in front.

It's interesting that a flatout Campsa barely make the speed and RPM drop. In 2018 a flatout Copse drops the speed by about 12-15km/h. Campsa is actually a sharper turn than Copse, but since the car doesn't come near top speed at the entry, it's easier for the engine to maintain the momentum, while at Copse entry the cars are already over 300km/h, so the cornering punishes the engine a lot harder.
Obviously drag at 260 can't be compared to drag at 300.

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Juzh wrote:
11 May 2019, 12:58
fp3

https://i.imgur.com/LKJWEc5.jpg
F***ing hell, S1 is the only sector Ferrari will win and yet only win by less than 0.1s. #-o

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yelistener wrote:
11 May 2019, 13:24
Juzh wrote:
11 May 2019, 12:58
fp3

https://i.imgur.com/LKJWEc5.jpg
F***ing hell, S1 is the only sector Ferrari will win and yet only win by less than 0.1s. #-o
I'm not even sure that's the case, that could just be Mercedes not pushing hard so they have tires left for later in the lap.
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Carl Mccoy wrote:
11 May 2019, 12:59
Haas is surprisingly close to Ferrari. Maybe there is still some hope :-)
Even two quicker drivers can't explain it but I'm going in the opposite direction - maybe it's time to reconsider betting on Ferrari :oops: .

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Ferrari will probably not win this season. The whole concept of the car is wrong. I'm surprised that Red Bull is so far away. Mercedes had to find a magic trick after losing the PU advantage. Their pace in medium and slow corners is terrifying.

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Carl Mccoy wrote:
11 May 2019, 14:18
Ferrari will probably not win this season. The whole concept of the car is wrong. I'm surprised that Red Bull is so far away. Mercedes had to find a magic trick after losing the PU advantage. Their pace in medium and slow corners is terrifying.
The more it tells us about their departments - they can win across any big regulation change in contrary to RBR with their "best chassis on the grid" and best aero...

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Carl Mccoy wrote:
11 May 2019, 14:18
Ferrari will probably not win this season. The whole concept of the car is wrong. I'm surprised that Red Bull is so far away. Mercedes had to find a magic trick after losing the PU advantage. Their pace in medium and slow corners is terrifying.
#-o

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netoperek wrote:
11 May 2019, 13:04
sAx wrote:
11 May 2019, 12:01
netoperek wrote:
11 May 2019, 03:58

George indeed is very talented, no doubt about it. You can't really say though that he beat Kubica by 0.5s unless You say that softs and more rubber on track during FP2's were only 0.1s faster than mediums on FP1 (that's the difference in Kubica's lap times between the sessions). It's only FP, too soon to draw conclusions I'd say.
Referring to chassis here! Specifically, the one that Kubica said had an imbalance issue, which in Russell's hands in FP2 sort of suggests otherwise.
I get it, thing is, it's quite shady what floors/monocoque set exactly are they're driving, as there has been some condtradictory statesments (I counted 4 different versions ;)). Roberts problems, confirmed by Williams and apparently evident on telemetry data, resulted from broken floor AND monocoque with improper stiffness, so essentially crap car :) Actually, the only info that has been somewhat consistent has been that Robert is running chassis #3 (the one George got after drain cover accident), as for George it has been said that he is running new chassis, fixed chassis from his previous GPs, fixed Robert's chassis (that he said himself). I don't know which one is true, because all of that came from Williams
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Imo the question is how big the margin of Merc really is, is it "just 8 tenths" or more than a second. Merc qualy PU settings are still more aggressive than that of Ferrari imo if one looks at the previous Q1 to Q3 improvements. Why can't I just support Mercedes from now on, it would be much less painfull to keep watching F1 haha.

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Midi wrote:
11 May 2019, 15:01
Imo the question is how big the margin of Merc really is, is it "just 8 tenths" or more than a second. Merc qualy PU settings are still more aggressive than that of Ferrari imo if one looks at the previous Q1 to Q3 improvements. Why can't I just support Mercedes from now on, it would be much less painfull to keep watching F1 haha.
I think 1.5s :-P

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That Renault should be pulled over. You can’t go dragging and dropping Carbon Fibre all around the track like that.

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Restomaniac wrote:
11 May 2019, 15:07
That Renault should be pulled over. You can’t go dragging and dropping Carbon Fibre all around the track like that.
I guess. More curious: Renault P15 & P16. So slow!

Especially on a mid-speed, smooth circuit that should suit their RS19 car. How strange!?