2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[M840TR]

Sainz complaining about s3 performance after the race but set the fastest s1 time of anyone. Quite polarized this one.

[mwillems]

In FP3 we had the third fastest S1 time of all cars, mightily impressive.

Perhaps it is a sign that the aero really has pushed forward.

I wonder if McLaren are able to bring an update to improve traction or whether they will focus mainly on Aero this year.

[diffuser]

[quote=Bisonas post_id=834050

TBH when i saw that SAINZ din't pit immediately , i thought wtf ?? MCL did it again. mess it up or that SAI had just passed the pit entry. Some how delaying entering for one lap, benefit us. I don't know exactly why that happen. I can only Assume that there was a yellow flag before the safety car call. many cars pitted on yellow flag assuming that their will be safety car ?? and maybe those few seconds that SAI was going full speed on another part of the circuit, gain him some time?? When he pitted one lap l8r race was under safe car and everyone was going on fixed speed.
i am guessing i don't really know for sure. But i found it strange. if someone have some details on how SAI gained time entering pits one lap l8r than others would be good to share.
[/quote]

Under yellow you'll still can be at least 15 seconds faster than pitting.

So the way it went was:

• Yellow came out .

• Cars pitted, sainz didn't. This resulted in Sainz unlapping himself as Hamilton pitted

• Safety car came out behind sainz and slowed to crawl to picking everyone up.

• Sainz went around on yellow and caught up to the back of the leaders.

• Sainz and STR pitted. STR were not ready for pit stop, Both STRs had a REALLY slow pit stop.

• Sainz/STRs caught up behind the leaders

• lapped cars who are behind the safety car were released

[RS200E]

2018 Constructor Standings After 5 Races: McLaren Renault

Australia 12
Bahrain 10
China 6
Azerbaijan 8
Spain 4

Total 40


2019 Constructor Standings After 5 Races: McLaren Renault

Australia 0
Bahrain 8
China 0
Azerbaijan 10
Spain 4

Total 22

Actually worse than last year but...
At least we are 4th in the championship. Still to be seen if this car is actually a stable platform/concept to build on, but I doubt the performance drop off like last year will happen (hopefully).

The top 3 are untouchable.

[RS200E]

people are overreacting. does anyone remember what our pace was like in china compared to bahrain? the last half of spains course is similar to the long sweeping, front limited portions in china. haas were always going to be more competitive here during the race because they didnt have to deal with tire temp issues. its very close between tr, haas and mclaren and results are still very track dependant. and spain isnt one of mclarens stronger tracks. remember that haas and toro roso started the year with a proven baseline in last years ferrari and redbull chassis. its only 5 races in so itll take a minute for us to out develope them if thats what happens. everyone seems to be really manic in their reactions to every single session.

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Plus people just love to post stuff on the internet. If we all walked around talking like we talk on here we would sectioned.

[selvam_e2002]

Quick question: Mclaren Used Honda engine till 2017 and there are no where. Now once they tie with RBR, suddenly they are fast and in number3 now and getting occasionally podium as well. How come it is possible for RBR. Is Alonso comment on GP2 engine was false?

[Nivedanm]

Quick question: Mclaren Used Honda engine till 2017 and there are no where. Now once they tie with RBR, suddenly they are fast and in number3 now and getting occasionally podium as well. How come it is possible for RBR. Is Alonso comment on GP2 engine was false?

Honda Engine was getting better by the end of 2017 itself and Alonso finished in points in the last three races. But considering the amount of retirements and the number of reliability issues they had to fix to get to that point, the damage was already done. It was an amicable split that benefitted both the parties. It's done, and there is no point in talking about the past.

[_cerber1]

2018 Constructor Standings After 5 Races: McLaren Renault

Australia 12
Bahrain 10
China 6
Azerbaijan 8
Spain 4

Total 40


2019 Constructor Standings After 5 Races: McLaren Renault

Australia 0
Bahrain 8
China 0
Azerbaijan 10
Spain 4

Total 22

Actually worse than last year but...
At least we are 4th in the championship. Still to be seen if this car is actually a stable platform/concept to build on, but I doubt the performance drop off like last year will happen (hopefully).

The top 3 are untouchable.

Many points were lost in Bahrain and China.

[Nivedanm]

I cannot understand why people make instant judgements on aero philosophies. Unlike us, the fans, McLaren is not a team of enthusiasts with polarised views on aero philosophies based on what they merely see and read. They are experts guided by knowledge and data. It's not like a team like McLaren would switch their aero philosophy overnight without any understanding, just by seeing Ferrari's pace in winter testing.

They must have seen the data. They must have thoroughly done their work in CFD for quite some time and later validated them in the wind tunnel before fitting the parts on the car. They tested the parts in practice sessions and confirmed they work. My belief is that they may have seen a greater potential for development with this new philosophy as the season progresses. If they get better on the longer run, then it is worth taking the risk.

So, I'll wait and see. Maybe in this week's testing they will understand why the tyres didn't work in race as they had in practice.

PS. While people criticise that this new philosophy is not working for McLaren, they also do acknowledge the fact that Toro Rosso, whose also follow the same aero philosophy, are getting quicker.

[NiyolHuayra]

Race day and post race day people on the forum are the worst, all are aerodynamic experts and strategists. Things happen in every race (SC, VSC) teams must be ready to adapt, McLaren did just that and it played out nicely. Yes the pace in 1st half of the race was not good, but it was not that bad and to criticize the update and all the hard work people at McLaren have done over the past month is just not fair. Next race is Monaco, updates won't matter as much there and let's be honest it will be a boring race. but after that comes Canada, if we are falling behind there, then worry. Also this was one good race for Haas so far and people are already making them the 4th in constructors I mean cmmon people.

[Vasconia]

I hoped to see a stronger McLaren with the updates but but I still hope that things Will be better if they keep a good rate of updates.

It´s clear that the car lacks downforce but at least this car should give them the chance of continious updates.

[zeph]

2018 Constructor Standings After 5 Races: McLaren Renault

Australia 12
Bahrain 10
China 6
Azerbaijan 8
Spain 4

Total 40


2019 Constructor Standings After 5 Races: McLaren Renault

Australia 0
Bahrain 8
China 0
Azerbaijan 10
Spain 4

Total 22

Actually worse than last year but...
At least we are 4th in the championship. Still to be seen if this car is actually a stable platform/concept to build on, but I doubt the performance drop off like last year will happen (hopefully).

The top 3 are untouchable.

Last year’s points is because of Alonso.

[Chicane]

With these front wing regulations understeer is ingrained in the concept itself. Binotto has said Ferrari are struggling with understeer as well. He admits a change in concept may be necessary. Mclaren were somewhere in the middle when it came to front wing concept at the start of the season. Now they are veering towards the aggressive out wash concept.

Front wing has three roles to play. Downforce, influencing the airflow over the rest of the car and front tyre wake management. Teams have to find the perfect compromise between these three things and it isn't easy with these heavily prescriptive front wings.

With front wing rules being rigid teams are having to look at other additional ways to generate front downforce and manage air flow. Turning vanes, bargeboards etc are the hot beds for development.

Mclaren, just like every other teams is working towards enhancing its strengths and fixing its weaknesses. With regulations staying same for next year the development of current car will run really deep in to the season. Mclaren have a good base and this will allow them to push harder to bring upgrades as soon as they are ready.

[NiyolHuayra]

Are the tests going to be broadcasted?

[_cerber1]

Are the tests going to be broadcasted?

Most likely in text format.