2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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They also said they were working on this issue in the test last week...

Let's hope they made a good step forward...

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They also said that this happened only in Barcelona, in Bahrain and Baku everything was fine.

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mclaren111 wrote:
20 May 2019, 15:24
They also said they were working on this issue in the test last week...

Let's hope they made a good step forward...
In the article retweeted by McLaren's senior aero guy, Ivan Roldan, it stated that the Barcelona issues had been removed during testing, and that the issues were related to their understanding of the car.

The next bit may be opinion, but it went on to say they will be able to extract more speed from the car and that it is inherently fast, with more speed to come.

So if he is retweeting that i feel he is endorsing that. So I'm cautiously optimistic that Monaco wont be a write off.
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McLaren wrote off last year so they could get back on the right track. This car still has plenty of untapped potential.
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godlameroso wrote:
20 May 2019, 19:10
McLaren wrote off last year so they could get back on the right track. This car still has plenty of untapped potential.
They've always come up with incredibly innovative suspension designs in recent years and I'm curious to see if they plan on focusing a fair bit of resource into recovering some performance gap to Merc in mechanical grip (that the entire field bar perhaps Redbull has).

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M840TR wrote:
20 May 2019, 20:08
godlameroso wrote:
20 May 2019, 19:10
McLaren wrote off last year so they could get back on the right track. This car still has plenty of untapped potential.
They've always come up with incredibly innovative suspension designs in recent years and I'm curious to see if they plan on focusing a fair bit of resource into recovering some performance gap to Merc in mechanical grip (that the entire field bar perhaps Redbull has).
You think their suspension works well at high speeds but is compromised at low speeds? And that the way forward is getting the suspension to have a wider window? Or that aero performance still has a way to go?
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godlameroso wrote:
20 May 2019, 20:41
M840TR wrote:
20 May 2019, 20:08
godlameroso wrote:
20 May 2019, 19:10
McLaren wrote off last year so they could get back on the right track. This car still has plenty of untapped potential.
They've always come up with incredibly innovative suspension designs in recent years and I'm curious to see if they plan on focusing a fair bit of resource into recovering some performance gap to Merc in mechanical grip (that the entire field bar perhaps Redbull has).
You think their suspension works well at high speeds but is compromised at low speeds? And that the way forward is getting the suspension to have a wider window? Or that aero performance still has a way to go?
We'll know how good the suspension is in Monoco. Barcelona is an extreme track that tests the car's limits but they messed up the setup and we don't how much quicker they could've gone with the right one. Carlos did say low-speed performance was better in prior races and let's say they might've recovered about 0.3 sec - ceteris paribus - that's still 0.7 sec behind Merc, however 0.2 sec behind Redbull. Merc is just in a league of its own, but we digress.
You're right in implying their performance in mid-speed corners is abysmal. The straights have been the only relevant avenue where lost time has been recovered in the past few tracks. Suspension doesn't play as significant a role here though I reckon. A wider working window is always welcome since it provides more freedom for setup changes but the car's squatting during such DF loads and unless one could increase rake mid-corner - akin to the illegal active suspension - to increase diffuser performance, there's not much else a suspension can do. The diff however can be optimized to send more power to the wheel with max load to increase traction and consequentially speed, but aero is still the most probable & apparent mitigation.

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https://apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff
Fantastic story. Incredible comedy of errors but I like Zak's attitude

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Macklaren wrote:
20 May 2019, 22:18
https://apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff
Fantastic story. Incredible comedy of errors but I like Zak's attitude
Jesus Christ, what a roller coaster that was. And to think that they could have overcome everything if they got the ratios right

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Macklaren wrote:
20 May 2019, 22:18
https://apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff
Fantastic story. Incredible comedy of errors but I like Zak's attitude
Jesus H Christ that is a nightmare. I hope the sponsors don't leave.

You would think, hey it's just a track and a car just like F1, and McLaren would have all the boxes ticked. What a waste of time and money that could have went into the F1 team.
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Macklaren wrote:
20 May 2019, 22:18
https://apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff
Fantastic story. Incredible comedy of errors but I like Zak's attitude
I am speachless.... This is how Ferrari was run trough the eighties not the mighty McLaren with eye for detail. You could laugh about it, but this is pathetic. McLaren is no more. amateurs.

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Indy. Meh.
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On a separate note, I think that to push close to Red Bull, be in the mix for 3rd and get a few podiums, we need more than a few tenths from the car, we need our driver lineup to perform to a higher standard. Too many mistakes and not quite there performances in crucial moments and more mistakes than redeeming drives.

Lando is a rookie and can be forgiven, but not so Sainz. I want to see more from him.
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