2019 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 23-26

[langedweil]

Isn't it true for every driver who gets dive-bombed by Max? China 2018?

Oh, come on .. you can do better than that.

[nevill3]

I think the late luge was inevitable and was not surprised when it happened. Max had left it a little late in the race though, probably because of Hamiltons superior pace through the tunnel

[Morteza]

Regarding Charles, it might be an unpopular opinion, but I didn't like it at all.
I thought he was driven from his anger and he just did stupid things inside the track. Granted, he would gain only a handful of points, but you need the spirit, never give up, maximise what you can get from the race.

Seeing him crashing here and there, I just couldn't believe this is the Charles who will be a star one day.

He is too emotional, needs to learn to control his emotions. Is Ferrari the right environment for that? That is the question.

[GPR-A]

Isn't it true for every driver who gets dive-bombed by Max? China 2018?

Oh, come on .. you can do better than that.

Thanks for the compliments. I can also list all the shunts of his, if you want?

[komninosm]

Hamilton fends off Verstappen to win at Monaco

Lewis Hamilton has had a difficult race on highly worn tyres, but managed to maintain the lead to win the Monaco Grand Prix. A penalty for Max Verstappen causes Vettel and Bottas to join him on the podium.

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Dude your write up has two serious mistakes, your bias is showing :

" The resulting safety car period triggered lots of pitstops, a series that cost Bottas two positions due to pitting immediately behind Hamilton.
Verstappen was later given a 5s time penalty for an unsafe release during that pitstop."

- Bottas did not lose two positions due to pitting behind Hamilton. It didn't affect him at all. He only lose positions cause Verstappen crashed into him.
And Verstappen did not just have an unsafe release without incident, blocking another car. He crashed into Bottas, twice, and endangered the pit crews by pressing into it like that.

"2 laps from the end, Verstappen made an attempt and took the inside into the chicane coming out of the tunnel, but as he didn't have a clear advantage, Hamilton still turned in, making his rear wheel to touch with Verstappen's front. Hamilton went straight on, and Verstappen held on to second."

- Oh come on! Can you frame it any more in favor of Verstappen? Hamilton made his rear wheel touch with Verstappen?!
What utter nonsense. Verstappen dive bombed and blocked his wheels during breaking and lost control of the car and crashed into Hamilton's rear.

FFS learn some unbiased good reporting.

[Schuttelberg]

Hamilton is in one of those zones which sportsman get themselves into where nothing can go wrong. On another day, that moment with Verstappen could have been a slam dunk puncture.

[Schuttelberg]

Also, those dissing Lewis for all the 'team radio..' Adrenaline speaking there. I can accept it. Was a phenomenal drive alright. All those dissing Max for his lunge need to go take a bath. The guy drove his balls out.. More power to him for giving it a go. What I didn't like was the way Max pushed Valtteri into the wall in the pit lane. That, I felt was not cool.

P.S- I'm a Max fan.

[Restomaniac]

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By using the logic that we shouldn’t follow the rules then what’s next to help. Allowing 1 driver to ignore fuel limits?

Well, if rotated randomly, that might spice things up .. especially when the rest of the field doesn't know who it is beforehand.

[DarkSurferZA]

Sorry but this conversation started someone blaming the stewards for daring to follow the rules by penalising Verstappen. It’s now progressed to blaming the width of the pit lane. If ANYONE is to blame it’s RedBull. It’s not the stewards or the pit lane that’s for certain.

Sadly, I have to defend RBR despite the impact to Botas. RBR saw a gas, they rolled the 2d20 die and landed a 2. That's racing, you take chances in split second decisions.

The stewards though, they have been consistently inconsistent with the decision making. Especially when it involves Max

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The stewards were actually lenient. They HAD to penalise, they chose the smallest penalty possible.

I’m not saying RedBull shouldn’t try it but it’s a dice roll which if done wrongly (it was) gets penalised.

You cannot then blame the Stewards (right to penalise) or the pit lane (which is the same for all teams and he same as it’s always been).

By using the logic that we shouldn’t follow the rules then what’s next to help. Allowing 1 driver to ignore fuel limits?

Sorry, my point wasn't clear. I am for penalizing RBR. But I also agree with their decision to roll the dice.

I am blaming them for the inconsistent penalty. That should have been a drive through penalty as it has always been for an unsafe release. This one had 2 sets of contact and impact to another driver for good measure.

My bad

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[komninosm]

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No further action on Hamilton v Verstappen

This would be outrageous if it wasn't known already how FIA babysits Verstappen.
He was totally at fault for this crash and extremely lucky that he didn't ruin both their cars completely. Glad Hamilton was good enough a driver to take some evasive action and avoid it.
Together with the extremely lenient penalty Ver got for hitting Bottas twice in the pits, FIA stewards are a joke again.

[Restomaniac]

Sadly, I have to defend RBR despite the impact to Botas. RBR saw a gas, they rolled the 2d20 die and landed a 2. That's racing, you take chances in split second decisions.

The stewards though, they have been consistently inconsistent with the decision making. Especially when it involves Max

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The stewards were actually lenient. They HAD to penalise, they chose the smallest penalty possible.

I’m not saying RedBull shouldn’t try it but it’s a dice roll which if done wrongly (it was) gets penalised.

You cannot then blame the Stewards (right to penalise) or the pit lane (which is the same for all teams and he same as it’s always been).

By using the logic that we shouldn’t follow the rules then what’s next to help. Allowing 1 driver to ignore fuel limits?

Sorry, my point wasn't clear. I am for penalizing RBR. But I also agree with their decision to roll the dice.

I am blaming them for the inconsistent penalty. That should have been a drive through penalty as it has always been for an unsafe release. This one had 2 sets of contact and impact to another driver for good measure.

My bad

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That’s fair enough and on my part sorry for the misunderstanding.

I agree and when he got the 5 seconds I did raise my eyebrows. However I think he would have ended up 4th anyway so in a way it’s ended up being corrected on the track.

[komninosm]

How on earth was Leclerc voted to be third in driver of the race poll during the F1 coverage, or have i seen it wrong?

It's because of all the Hamilton haters (even a lot of racists still some of them) and because Monaco is Leclerc's home and because fools with a temper and little sense like Verstappen no matter what he does. Toxic masculinity for you.
Clearly this race was Hamilton's triumph. He didn't even make a mistake. Ver actually lost it twice behind him. And then a crash.

[komninosm]

10 car lengths bottas ?

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I'm surprised this resulted in nothing, not even an investigation.

Yeah, what exactly is the rule on that? Is it after you line up behind the safety car that you have to keep within 10 car lengths? How slow can you drive prior to it?

[RZS10]

Hamilton fends off Verstappen to win at Monaco

Lewis Hamilton has had a difficult race on highly worn tyres, but managed to maintain the lead to win the Monaco Grand Prix. A penalty for Max Verstappen causes Vettel and Bottas to join him on the podium.

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Dude your write up has two serious mistakes, your bias is showing :

" The resulting safety car period triggered lots of pitstops, a series that cost Bottas two positions due to pitting immediately behind Hamilton.
Verstappen was later given a 5s time penalty for an unsafe release during that pitstop."

- Bottas did not lose two positions due to pitting behind Hamilton. It didn't affect him at all. He only lose positions cause Verstappen crashed into him.
And Verstappen did not just have an unsafe release without incident, blocking another car. He crashed into Bottas, twice, and endangered the pit crews by pressing into it like that.

"2 laps from the end, Verstappen made an attempt and took the inside into the chicane coming out of the tunnel, but as he didn't have a clear advantage, Hamilton still turned in, making his rear wheel to touch with Verstappen's front. Hamilton went straight on, and Verstappen held on to second."

- Oh come on! Can you frame it any more in favor of Verstappen? Hamilton made his rear wheel touch with Verstappen?!
What utter nonsense. Verstappen dive bombed and blocked his wheels during breaking and lost control of the car and crashed into Hamilton's rear.

FFS learn some unbiased good reporting.

None of the reports/articles here are worth reading apart from some of the technical stuff tbh ... they're none better than the posts of the forum in that regard

The average F1 viewer is obviously an absolute moron when they vote Max as driver of the day after he ...eh ... rammed Bottas into the wall after an unsafe release and almost took out the race leader in a desperate divebomb and lost p2 because of the penalty which should have been a 10s stop and go according to the rules

[GPR-A]

The average F1 viewer is obviously an absolute moron when they vote Max as driver of the day after he ...eh ... rammed Bottas into the wall after an unsafe release and almost took out the race leader in a desperate divebomb and lost p2 because of the penalty which should have been a 10s stop and go according to the rules

There is a large dutch fan following that has come in to F1 following Verstappen, in the past couple of years. Their first reaction after a race, is to vote him for Driver of the Day, no matter what. There is a clear pattern to it and in the same time, the surge in Red Bull team thread here is an unsurprising co-incidence.