2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[mwillems]

Hmm, well I didn't factor in penalties, overheating rears and brakes melting suspension parts into my optimism for this race.

Looks like Renault are back in the game, at least for this race. Should be a good fight over the next few races.

I dont think either Renault or Ferrari are back...this is a specific track, they were good in Bahrain, here and they will be good in Monza and Mexico(maybe)

I dont think Ferrari are either, sheer power kept them ahead. But considering that the McLaren is based on aerodynamic efficiency you'd think that the the straights here would tip the favour towards mcl over Renault, but they didn't.

[SmallSoldier]

Hmm, well I didn't factor in penalties, overheating rears and brakes melting suspension parts into my optimism for this race.

Looks like Renault are back in the game, at least for this race. Should be a good fight over the next few races.

I dont think either Renault or Ferrari are back...this is a specific track, they were good in Bahrain, here and they will be good in Monza and Mexico(maybe)

I dont think Ferrari are either, sheer power kept them ahead. But considering that the McLaren is based on aerodynamic efficiency you'd think that the the straights here would tip the favour towards mcl over Renault, but they didn't.

I guess we will never know how good the car could have been... Carlos’ Race was compromised in lap 4 and couldn’t show his actual pace through the race while trying to conserve his tires... And Lando’s Race was over at the beginning of the race too.

Still a lot of racing ahead of us this season.


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[_cerber1]

Paul Ricard, is McLaren not very suitable?

[chrisgr]

Paul Ricard, is McLaren not very suitable?

I dont think it matters alot. Look what happened in Canada, where track suits us. Anyway, both cars had a problem with brakes. It cant be a coincidence, even if Sainz only had some debris. We lost double points score for brake problems.

edit: Because Paul Ricard is Renault's home race, I suppose they will bring a lot of updates. Mclaren is a (marginally) better car all around until now but things can change easily.

[Andres125sx]

So brakes problems on both cars, presumably both due to debris blocking air intakes, compromised Carlos race forcing to do 67 laps on same tires, and melting Lando suspension. It´s a shame since McLaren was performing really well this weekend

Some will say drivers did underperform again tough

[_cerber1]

Paul Ricard, is McLaren not very suitable?

I dont think it matters alot. Look what happened in Canada, where track suits us. Anyway, both cars had a problem with brakes. It cant be a coincidence, even if Sainz only had some debris. We lost double points score for brake problems.

edit: Because Paul Ricard is Renault's home race, I suppose they will bring a lot of updates. Mclaren is a (marginally) better car all around until now but things can change easily.

French track is limited in front? It seems that this is not very suitable for our chassis.

[mwillems]

So brakes problems on both cars, presumably both due to debris blocking air intakes, compromised Carlos race forcing to do 67 laps on same tires, and melting Lando suspension. It´s a shame since McLaren was performing really well this weekend

Some will say drivers did underperform again tough

I'm not sure anyone has looked at mechanical failures / issues and blamed the drivers, it's just you putting that out there I think, but if it suits you're narrative then i dont mind

[bauc]

So Renault is bringing update package to their home race in two weeks time, should we expect Mclaren to use Silverstone for theirs? I have't heard anything yet tho....

[M840TR]

Paul Ricard, is McLaren not very suitable?

I dont think it matters alot. Look what happened in Canada, where track suits us. Anyway, both cars had a problem with brakes. It cant be a coincidence, even if Sainz only had some debris. We lost double points score for brake problems.

edit: Because Paul Ricard is Renault's home race, I suppose they will bring a lot of updates. Mclaren is a (marginally) better car all around until now but things can change easily.

French track is limited in front? It seems that this is not very suitable for our chassis.

It's quite front limited indeed. Sort of like Barcelona. Judging by the pattern so far the performance will probably be quite bad. Renault is bringing a substantial upgrade as well while still being a bit ahead on pace currently, so the outlook looks bleak in terms of pace.

[M840TR]

So Renault is bringing update package to their home race in two weeks time, should we expect Mclaren to use Silverstone for theirs? I have't heard anything yet tho....

They had production issues, otherwise the upgrade was scheduled for earlier. As for Mclaren, that's the second new floor in only 2 races so they're on it.

[godlameroso]

Paul Ricard, is McLaren not very suitable?

I dont think it matters alot. Look what happened in Canada, where track suits us. Anyway, both cars had a problem with brakes. It cant be a coincidence, even if Sainz only had some debris. We lost double points score for brake problems.

edit: Because Paul Ricard is Renault's home race, I suppose they will bring a lot of updates. Mclaren is a (marginally) better car all around until now but things can change easily.

French track is limited in front? It seems that this is not very suitable for our chassis.

Its front limited in the final 3 curves which are long and low speed. All other corners have relatively fast entries, save the slowest turn which leads onto the back straight.

Alonso managed to score points there last year. They can do it again with a trouble free weekend. The car is fast enough to finish every race in the points, and getting better every round. There are still costly operational errors holding them back.

[Ground Effect]

I dont think it matters alot. Look what happened in Canada, where track suits us. Anyway, both cars had a problem with brakes. It cant be a coincidence, even if Sainz only had some debris. We lost double points score for brake problems.

edit: Because Paul Ricard is Renault's home race, I suppose they will bring a lot of updates. Mclaren is a (marginally) better car all around until now but things can change easily.

French track is limited in front? It seems that this is not very suitable for our chassis.

Its front limited in the final 3 curves which are long and low speed. All other corners have relatively fast entries, save the slowest turn which leads onto the back straight.

Alonso managed to score points there last year. They can do it again with a trouble free weekend. The car is fast enough to finish every race in the points, and getting better every round. There are still costly operational errors holding them back.

Alonso was a DNF at Paul Ricard last year.

[diffuser]

I dont think it matters alot. Look what happened in Canada, where track suits us. Anyway, both cars had a problem with brakes. It cant be a coincidence, even if Sainz only had some debris. We lost double points score for brake problems.

edit: Because Paul Ricard is Renault's home race, I suppose they will bring a lot of updates. Mclaren is a (marginally) better car all around until now but things can change easily.

French track is limited in front? It seems that this is not very suitable for our chassis.

It's quite front limited indeed. Sort of like Barcelona. Judging by the pattern so far the performance will probably be quite bad. Renault is bringing a substantial upgrade as well while still being a bit ahead on pace currently, so the outlook looks bleak in terms of pace.

It all depends on how accurate some of the speeds are. It isn't clear to me if McLaren are front end limited at slow speeds and not so much at high speed.


There was talk about removing turns 8 and 9 from the 2019 configuration last year.

[M840TR]

I dont think it matters alot. Look what happened in Canada, where track suits us. Anyway, both cars had a problem with brakes. It cant be a coincidence, even if Sainz only had some debris. We lost double points score for brake problems.

edit: Because Paul Ricard is Renault's home race, I suppose they will bring a lot of updates. Mclaren is a (marginally) better car all around until now but things can change easily.

French track is limited in front? It seems that this is not very suitable for our chassis.

Its front limited in the final 3 curves which are long and low speed. All other corners have relatively fast entries, save the slowest turn which leads onto the back straight.

Alonso managed to score points there last year. They can do it again with a trouble free weekend. The car is fast enough to finish every race in the points, and getting better every round. There are still costly operational errors holding them back.

Wait, no...

[M840TR]

French track is limited in front? It seems that this is not very suitable for our chassis.

It's quite front limited indeed. Sort of like Barcelona. Judging by the pattern so far the performance will probably be quite bad. Renault is bringing a substantial upgrade as well while still being a bit ahead on pace currently, so the outlook looks bleak in terms of pace.

It all depends on how accurate some of the speeds are. It isn't clear to me if McLaren are front end limited at slow speeds and not so much at high speed.


There was talk about removing turns 8 and 9 from the 2019 configuration last year.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... ck-map.jpg

Understeer mostly hits at high entry speed, doesn't matter if the corner is slow or fast.