yep, mistakes have consequences, the problem with modern society is that far too many think the consequences don't apply to them or should be circumstantial.
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Formula One has seen yet another controversial result of a Grand Prix as Lewis Hamiton inherited the Canadian GP race win after a controversial 5s penalty for leader Sebastian Vettel. An infuriated Vettel was classified second, ahead of Leclerc in third.
yep, mistakes have consequences, the problem with modern society is that far too many think the consequences don't apply to them or should be circumstantial.
You can see some of it behind the spinning car; https://youtu.be/kIdFuozTKrQ?t=53
I suppose the thinking is they have to back Seb to the hilt, to get the best out of him, and Charles is only 21 still and making 21-year-old type mistakes. It'd destroy their 4xwdc driver not to have him as the No1. Teams are always like this, they sense the top alpha and gather round him, and when they don't, like McLaren in 2010-12, they sufferRingleheim wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 20:02So today Autosport reports that Ferrari "Forgot" to inform Leclerc about Vettel's penalty, so he didn't have extra incentive to try and close down the gap to Vettel/Hamilton and maybe move up into second place ahead of Vettel.
I highly doubt Ferrari "Forgot" but rather wanted to protect Vettel's position and favor Vettel over Leclerc.
This season is already lost so it really doesn't matter, but I don't like the way Ferrari continues to screw over their own up and coming driver (Leclerc) in favor of a guy who has shown a lot of roughness around the edges and is closer to the end of his career than the beginning.
As a giant Ferrari fan, I'll be glad when our No. 1 is not Vettel; we can do better.
Freddy, are you ready to come back to F1?!
I did not know, that you were in the car.The Black Knight wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 17:38He didn’t even try though, just cried over the radio instead.marvin78 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 07:37He did not have the car to Do that. That Was clearly visible. Vettel usually does that with the iThe Black Knight wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 07:09I remember a couple of years ago, a young Valentino Rossi in MotoGP got a ten second timed penalty while leading the race (I cannot remember year or track).
Instead of complaining over the radio about it, he drove an amazing final section of the race and built a gap of ten seconds to win anyway.
This is what Vettel should have at least tried to do on Sunday.
right car.
I viewed it on F1TV that I pay for. Sorry I cant post a linkDutchDopey wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 20:06You can see some of it behind the spinning car; https://youtu.be/kIdFuozTKrQ?t=53
It's difficult to believe Ferrari would take a strategic gamble like that. They really must be under a lot of pressure.
LeClerc couldn’t pit earlier as there wasn’t the gap. That’s was why Hamilton couldn’t come in the very next lap after Vettel either.Shrieker wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 15:29An early pit for Lec to undercut Ham would've forced the team's hand to pit Vet to cover from a Ham undercut, causing both Lec and Vet to have a compromised race in case there was a SC later.waynes wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 09:34Wasn't he catching VET / HAM when the stops started happening? I fully understand what you say, and yes its logical to split strategies looking back.Shrieker wrote: ↑10 Jun 2019, 17:50They had him go long and have fresher tires for later on in case there was a SC. So they split their 2 cars to cover for both eventualities (sc vs no sc). Lec had fallen back sufficiently already before the leaders had their stops, so it was only logical to go for a different plan with him; I don't blame Ferrari here.
If you don't penalize something that brakes a rule just because it's unpopular than that's not sport anymore.
How?
You mean 21 year old mistakes like driving more reliably than Vettel despite the team constantly handicapping him?izzy wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 20:17I suppose the thinking is they have to back Seb to the hilt, to get the best out of him, and Charles is only 21 still and making 21-year-old type mistakes. It'd destroy their 4xwdc driver not to have him as the No1. Teams are always like this, they sense the top alpha and gather round him, and when they don't, like McLaren in 2010-12, they suffer
Charles' time will come, it's just a bit too soon. And yes Fernando would be amazing, but he's 38 this year. So you guys have to hang in with Seb, hope Lewis can't resist, and wait for Charles to come of F1 age in a couple of years
Yep, it's just an automotive equivalent of WWE without real rules!