2019 [R09] Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 28-30 June

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Re: 2019 [R09] Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 28-30 June

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Mercedes slower than last year around this track.

Ferrari flying through the corner heavy sector, wtf is going on?

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TAG wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:09
LM10 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:03
Let’s see, if Hamilton will get his deserved penalty. My assumption is no.
I hope he does get a penalty, it was clearly impeding Kimi, if albeit a weird situation. Hamilton should get a 3 place grid drop for it. You won't see him have a sissy fit about it and you won't see 20 pages of Hamilton fans complaining about it, my assumption.
No, we'll just get all the Hamilton Haters gloating about it. Both sides make me sick. Both sides distract from actual F1 conversation here.

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Slam dunk penalty for Hamilton. Charles should get the victory denied to him earlier in the season. It will be interesting to see how far up Vettel finishes. Will he get Bottas?
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TAG wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:09
LM10 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:03
Let’s see, if Hamilton will get his deserved penalty. My assumption is no.
I hope he does get a penalty, it was clearly impeding Kimi, if albeit a weird situation. Hamilton should get a 3 place grid drop for it. You won't see him have a sissy fit about it and you won't see 20 pages of Hamilton fans complaining about it is my assumption.
Why should he complain? He’s the driver in the most relaxed position of all other drivers. Best car, best team, big points gap. Why should he be frustrated about a minor 3 place grid penalty?

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...Not only Raikkonen advanced into Q2, but he also advanced into Q3. Hamilton while trying to get out of his way, inadvertently ended up blocking him. If that right then would've prevented Raikkonen from advancing into Q2 then yes, he should've gotten a penalty. And trying to draw parallels with Vettel ...

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... Vettel prevented Sainz from advancing iirc.
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Anyone knows the issue with Vettel car?

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LM10 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:03
Let’s see, if Hamilton will get his deserved penalty. My assumption is no.
This will be very interesting to see.

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Sevach wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:10
Mercedes slower than last year around this track.

Ferrari flying through the corner heavy sector, wtf is going on?
The world's gone crazy! At this point anything better than a double DNF is a win for Mercedes from last year. I'd be happy with that.
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wickedz50 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:17
Anyone knows the issue with Vettel car?
Pneumatic kind. Some quick connector broke.

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Shrieker wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:15
Ppl who say Hamilton deserves a penalty are hilarious :lol: Not only Raikkonen advanced into Q2, but he also advanced into Q3. Hamilton while trying to get out of his way, inadvertently ended up blocking him. If that right then would've prevented Raikkonen from advancing into Q2 then yes, he should've gotten a penalty. And trying to draw parallels with Vettel - Sainz incident is grasping at straws and shows you guys are just bitter thru and thru. Vettel prevented Sainz from advancing iirc.
Kimi needed to abort his flying lap because Hamilton blocked him. From what I know that’s enough for a penalty.

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TAG wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:09
LM10 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:03
Let’s see, if Hamilton will get his deserved penalty. My assumption is no.
I hope he does get a penalty, it was clearly impeding Kimi, if albeit a weird situation. Hamilton should get a 3 place grid drop for it. You won't see him have a sissy fit about it and you won't see 20 pages of Hamilton fans complaining about it, my assumption.
just like he didn't cry and accuse kimi for purposely crashing into him in silverstone #-o

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Seems to me that soft tyres were overheated on Merc cars with these hot track temps.
Reason for that:
- their traction was weaker in slow corners, particularly in turn 3
- delta time between soft and medium, on this track is around 7 tenths, but the delta between fastest lap on medium tyre on Q2 and first run in Q3 was less than 3 tenths, taking into account that both sessions Lewis didn`t have had a slipstream and most of all he had that party mode in Q3, so at least 2 tenths faster
- Bottas have had the same situation tyre wise and his results were down to 3 tenths from Lewis which is due to having a spec.1 PU ...
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I just watched Vettel-Sainz incident from last year...

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...Vettel was parked at the exit of T1 (which is a blind corner) which could've caused a big crash. Essentially, he was penalized not only for blocking but also doing something very dangerous.
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Shrieker wrote:Ppl who say Hamilton deserves a penalty are hilarious :lol: Not only Raikkonen advanced into Q2, but he also advanced into Q3. Hamilton while trying to get out of his way, inadvertently ended up blocking him. If that right then would've prevented Raikkonen from advancing into Q2 then yes, he should've gotten a penalty. And trying to draw parallels with Vettel - Sainz incident is grasping at straws and shows you guys are just bitter thru and thru. Vettel prevented Sainz from advancing iirc.
Well, the fact that Kimi moved into Q2 and Q3 have nothing to do with the infraction... I’m not saying that Hamilton deserves a penalty, but if he obstructed Kimi, it doesn’t matter what the outcome was, the obstruction is penalized.


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I would love for Charles to win this one. However i feel Max has a good chance of winning. How was the redbull on the long runs?
The car seemed very good in qualifying pace and balance.

As for Hamilton impeding it was very touch and go. Kimi did not slam on the brakes, or go offline because of Hamilton. he had a little flinch. So i am 50/50. If Lewis is penalized then it would only make the race better. So i guess either way i wont be upset as a fan. If he goes on to win from that penalty it would be very ominous for the rest of the season.
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