2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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DiogoBrand wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 16:53
Sayeman wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 16:41
Yayyyyyyyy. Hope FIA doesnt mess it up now
They will if they allow drivers to win by pushing others off the track.
As Brundle said. Max had the inside line, got ahead and therefore has the right to the corner, Leclerc did not concede at the correct time and put himself in that position. If he gets a penalty, all passes are snooze DRS ones.

Max was VASTLY quicker. There shouldn't be any penalty. It was a basic racing movement. Watch the onboard. No nasty stuff at all.

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GhostF1 wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 17:11
DiogoBrand wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 16:53
Sayeman wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 16:41
Yayyyyyyyy. Hope FIA doesnt mess it up now
They will if they allow drivers to win by pushing others off the track.
As Brundle said. Max had the inside line, got ahead and therefore has the right to the corner, Leclerc did not concede at the correct time and put himself in that position. If he gets a penalty, all passes are snooze DRS ones.

Max was VASTLY quicker. There shouldn't be any penalty. It was a basic racing movement. Watch the onboard. No nasty stuff at all.
Exactly! He had the INSIDE line, that doesn't give you the right to go on the outside and push the other car off track. If Max had to got by with a dirty move even though he was vastly quicker, that's entirely his mistake. Being faster doesn't give you the right to overtake however you want.

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Big congrat redbull honda, great victory, amazing drive and pace! And so nice highlighting honda 👍 thats how you work together

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It's hard to argue if it was a dirty move or not, we won't know about the stewards decision for a while. Watching the onboards, it could be argued Max slightly missed his braking point because of the DRS tow, so really a difficult decision. This is also vastly different than what happened between Vettel and Hamilton in Canada.
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This is a very confident victory. Red Bull never won on such a track without problems from competitors, in the past, Red Bull Renault was constantly helped by safety car, rain, accidents and other conditions. Red Bull begins to fulfill its promises and compensate for 20-30 hp, now it's Honda's turn.

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KelsO wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 17:24
This is a very confident victory. Red Bull never won on such a track without problems from competitors, in the past, Red Bull Renault was constantly helped by safety car, rain, accidents and other circumstances. Red Bull begins to fulfill its promises and compensate for 20-30 hp, now it's Honda's turn.
The Honda unit did not run perfectly, with some clipping issues and exhaust sensor issue, but thankfully it was just enough to get the Austrian victory for RBR. =D>

Will RBR be looking to swap Gasly to Toro Rosso? :?:

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Congratulations to Red Bull and Honda!

Really happy for Honda... What a race!


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Marti_EF3 wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 16:55
Tanabe was crying on the podium. After all the hard moments Honda had, I can't imagine what the feeling could be :mrgreen:
Nice gesture to send Honda to the podium by RBR for their first win of the season.

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Kubica voted DOTD
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JordanMugen wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 17:27
KelsO wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 17:24
This is a very confident victory. Red Bull never won on such a track without problems from competitors, in the past, Red Bull Renault was constantly helped by safety car, rain, accidents and other circumstances. Red Bull begins to fulfill its promises and compensate for 20-30 hp, now it's Honda's turn.
The Honda unit did not run perfectly, with some clipping issues and exhaust sensor issue, but thankfully it was just enough to get the Austrian victory for RBR. =D>

Will RBR be looking to swap Gasly to Toro Rosso? :?:
That Honda PU will makes its way into a glass case and enshrined in Honda Aoyama. Max Verstappen's driver suit will join the winner's line up at the entrance. Max is Honda's hero. Thank you Jos. Dreams do come true.

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I think the power failure message was a mind game from RB for Merc
Never Give up.

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Mode 11. Higher power mode, all the way to end!

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DiogoBrand wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 17:15
GhostF1 wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 17:11
DiogoBrand wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 16:53


They will if they allow drivers to win by pushing others off the track.
As Brundle said. Max had the inside line, got ahead and therefore has the right to the corner, Leclerc did not concede at the correct time and put himself in that position. If he gets a penalty, all passes are snooze DRS ones.

Max was VASTLY quicker. There shouldn't be any penalty. It was a basic racing movement. Watch the onboard. No nasty stuff at all.
Exactly! He had the INSIDE line, that doesn't give you the right to go on the outside and push the other car off track. If Max had to got by with a dirty move even though he was vastly quicker, that's entirely his mistake. Being faster doesn't give you the right to overtake however you want.
You're reading this as a furious Ferrari fan..

Once you've passed ahead, you have the right to the racing line, the driver who was passed has to at some point concede the corner, just like every other overtaking manoeuvre that happened in this race. You, as the driver being overtaken, cannot continue off line and cry foul you ran out of road trying to recover your mistake.
Fact is, Leclerc left the door open and tried to recover poorly. Max left plenty of room for him to rejoin, he didn't force him off, the onboards show no left lock inputs at all. Even Mattia Binotto said he agrees it doesn't deserve a penalty but is banking on the stewards interpreting it as causing a collision and Vettel said the stewards should leave the drivers alone, this is racing. That says it all to me.

HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to RBR and of course to Honda. Both had a flawless race today and deserved the win. Incredible job by Max as well! Insane prowess out on the track today.

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JordanMugen wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 17:27

The Honda unit did not run perfectly, with some clipping issues and exhaust sensor issue, but thankfully it was just enough to get the Austrian victory for RBR. =D>

Will RBR be looking to swap Gasly to Toro Rosso? :?:
Pierre had a different chassis, the less it is still very weak, we need to wait for Silverstone and then draw conclusions.

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This video gives a glimpse of the incident. Max was turning in and Leclerc was running out of road so he should have clearly backed off

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1145354715061993472