2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Artur Craft
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Mclaren improved and is the clear 4th carbut there is an abyss to the top 3 as they still get lapped

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Artur Craft wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 04:52
Mclaren improved and is the clear 4th carbut there is an abyss to the top 3 as they still get lapped
Their target was no higher than P6. Once Norris was comfortably ahead and Gasly was kept at bay, it was all about managing tyres and saving engine life. So, he was driving to a delta till the end, instead of going for P5, which he couldn't have got anyways. If they have a an upgrade or two that would enable them to challenge for a higher position, I am sure they would go for it.

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Very Very pleased with what the team is doing.

Results are here, drivers are not top drivers, but are OK for what they do now, Lando is progressing and still have more to show in the futur.

Team is not arrogant anymore, Seidl, Key, recruitement are promising! It's a long road but McLaren seems to finally be in the right way to recover !

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Sitting in my office and just thinking back to pre-season when Autosport claimed that we were 2nd to last, and faster only to Williams :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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bauc wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 09:37
Sitting in my office and just thinking back to pre-season when Autosport claimed that we were 2nd to last, and faster only to Williams :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Buxton: glory running their way to P4 WCC.

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Jambier wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 09:30
Very Very pleased with what the team is doing.

Results are here, drivers are not top drivers, but are OK for what they do now, Lando is progressing and still have more to show in the futur.

Team is not arrogant anymore, Seidl, Key, recruitement are promising! It's a long road but McLaren seems to finally be in the right way to recover !
I rate both drivers very highly, they are doing a great job and with a better car I am sure they would deliver.

Very happy with Mclaren´s evolution, this is the way to bring back the team to the top. Still a long way but the trend is very positive.

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bauc wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 09:37
Sitting in my office and just thinking back to pre-season when Autosport claimed that we were 2nd to last, and faster only to Williams :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Yeah. It was pretty mind boggling. They would ignore testing results, do no further analysis and just go on claiming that McLaren is 9th, almost certainly as they based their opinion on last year results.

But when someone took the time to analyze the data (https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/03 ... -analysis/), and do statistic based analysis, he came up with this.
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As you can see, the analysis is pretty much spot on. Only major mistake is that Ferrari is ahead of Mercedes, but given known Mercedes sand bagging tactics it's not that unexpected.

He even got the Haas unpredictability right! Imagine if journalists did their job and did proper analysis.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 11:29
bauc wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 09:37
Sitting in my office and just thinking back to pre-season when Autosport claimed that we were 2nd to last, and faster only to Williams :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Yeah. It was pretty mind boggling. They would ignore testing results, do no further analysis and just go on claiming that McLaren is 9th, almost certainly as they based their opinion on last year results.

But when someone took the time to analyze the data (https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/03 ... -analysis/), and do statistic based analysis, he came up with this.
https://f1metrics.files.wordpress.com/2 ... .png?w=640

As you can see, the analysis is pretty much spot on. Only major mistake is that Ferrari is ahead of Mercedes, but given known Mercedes sand bagging tactics it's not that unexpected.

He even got the Haas unpredictability right! Imagine if journalists did their job and did proper analysis.
Agreed =D>
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bauc wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 09:37
Sitting in my office and just thinking back to pre-season when Autosport claimed that we were 2nd to last, and faster only to Williams :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
The funny thing is, there was nothing in pre-season to suggest that they were 2nd slowest. When McLaren set a quick time, it's a glory run, when another team does, it's "serious pace"... But I'm really glad McLaren didn't go out of their way to dispute any of the nonsense talk, they just carried on with their business
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And that´s the reason I never click on silly season or pre-season testing threads, wild speculation with no reliable data wich only show s an alternative reality wich will never become true :roll:

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diffuser wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 14:39
Andres125sx wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 13:42
Chicane wrote:
30 Jun 2019, 21:58
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Sainz's overtakes
=D> =D>

Not sure if this is a good thing but he had to pass all 11 cars on track, nothing from pitstops. Anycase going from last to best of the rest was more than expected, so awesome job to the whole team, but this time specially Carlos =D>
Agreed...in the keep him honest department...he did make a mistake that broke his front wing and cost him one(Gasly) position.
So perfection, no, but very good.
Fair enough :)

I wonder for how many races Gasly will keep his seat...

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Andres125sx wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 13:02
diffuser wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 14:39
Andres125sx wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 13:42


=D> =D>

Not sure if this is a good thing but he had to pass all 11 cars on track, nothing from pitstops. Anycase going from last to best of the rest was more than expected, so awesome job to the whole team, but this time specially Carlos =D>
Agreed...in the keep him honest department...he did make a mistake that broke his front wing and cost him one(Gasly) position.
So perfection, no, but very good.
Fair enough :)

I wonder for how many races Gasly will keep his seat...
Well I hope for the rest of the season, for our self interest of course!

But Kvyats name has already started popping up in Articles, as well as Franz Tost saying it would not be a loss of face for Red Bull to take Kvyat back (I doubt this was quoted by accident or fortune), so it looks like the process is starting to move. I would expect the summer break at the earliest.

But I don't know if they'd want to rush Kvyat in, not sure if they really have any other options either, so it may be that he's here for the year, which is good new for us. We won't catch Red Bull, but we will benefit from the extra points if he is behind the Mclarens but in front of others.
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What's the view on the uprated engine in Sainz car - he looked half a second quicker per lap than Norris on clearer laps? He also set one of the quickest times of the day in that middle stint - That would put McLaren within touching distance of the boys ahead if an accurate reflection ( stretching hope I know...)

Was similar to the difference between Ricciardo and Hulkenburg at the French GP so looks like a genuine pace increase?

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I doubt it´s half a second. Similar to Sainz in France, Lando was only driving to a delta to keep Gasly behind, he had no need to push to the limit.

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MakAsp wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 13:40
What's the view on the uprated engine in Sainz car - he looked half a second quicker per lap than Norris on clearer laps? He also set one of the quickest times of the day in that middle stint - That would put McLaren within touching distance of the boys ahead if an accurate reflection ( stretching hope I know...)

Was similar to the difference between Ricciardo and Hulkenburg at the French GP so looks like a genuine pace increase?

His Set-Up was focused on the race only due to PU penalty... Couple of tenths there...