2019 [R09] Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 28-30 June

[Phil]

I’m still just amused that the crowding on corner exit is such a big deal. It’s been done numerous times, time and time again. I also dont buy the excuses on why Leclerc avoided covering the inside. If he had done so, he would have forced Verstappen around the longer way around the corner and effectively done, what Max did to him instead. He didnt do it, he lost his strategic edge in that battle and there went the win.

Coming up with excuses and blaming it on the stewards post race is kind of weak when he could have done a better job at defending.

Ps: and as many know here, i’m really not a fan of Max’s racing ethics. But i’m not letting that cloud my judgement.

[Vasconia]

In my opinion veestappen "had" to win. For the whole show and stop mercedes dominance for a little while. Some of you may understand me. I support redbul and mclaren and they need some "help". Ferrari moment will be Monza, maybe Germany

This could have happened in Canada but stewards decide to follow the rules more or less strictly depending on some circustantces not closely related to the race itself.

I think Verstappen deserved the win even if his move was very aggressive. Leclerc lost the race when the took the corner leaving enough space for Verstappen to take the inside.

[Alexf1]

Politics, the usual and aweful politics in F1...

What the stewads said:

but there was clearly insufficient space for both cars to do so

What happened in the real world, on that lap and the previous one

https://streamable.com/p1bt2

If track doesn´t get narrower each lap, I think we can´t find a better example of an absurd decision based on politics as the argument used is just too ridiculous...

What politics? There is a clear difference between the 2 attempts.
Verstappen wasnt as close to Leclerc on the run up to the second one so he had to brake later and ended up deeper into the corner (which is allowed).
Usually in that situation the car on the outside sees him coming, brakes early and cuts back across to have a better exit from the inside. That didnt happen because Verstappen came very late out of his slipstream and could only get his car alongside Leclercs which took away the opportunity for Leclerc to cut back across so he was stuck on the outside in a situation that was different than the lap before (which he realized too late I think).

[marvin78]

What took away the chance for Leclerc was the hit which could be done on purpose.

[Just_a_fan]

If track doesn´t get narrower each lap, I think we can´t find a better example of an absurd decision based on politics as the argument used is just too ridiculous...

[Espresso]

Not the first and the last time they will clash...
So I bring you some wise words of Charles:

Reporter: What happened with Max?
Leclerc: Nothing just an incident on the race

[dans79]

What happened in the real world, on that lap and the previous one

Your argument is faulty imo, as the drivers do not take the same line ever single lap. Hence the reason why some times a pass or defensive maneuver works one one lap and not the other!

[sosic2121]

Politics, the usual and aweful politics in F1...

What the stewads said:

but there was clearly insufficient space for both cars to do so

What happened in the real world, on that lap and the previous one

https://streamable.com/p1bt2

If track doesn´t get narrower each lap, I think we can´t find a better example of an absurd decision based on politics as the argument used is just too ridiculous...

Their explanation makes me wonder if they watched the race at all...

[sosic2121]

Yes(although I don't agree with it), but this time it caused accident.

It caused slow speed contact, not an accident. Contact itself is not a punishable offense.

And yet, Vettel received 10s stop and go penalty for that(Baku 2017?), and even that wasn't enough for many of us here.

It took me couple of days to answer you, but here I am

[Jolle]

on L68 Leclerc was like: hey, this is my corner, move over. On L69: lets see how far I can open this door, please take the corner away from me.

Verstappen: Thanx!

now stop crying, Leclerc gave that corner to Verstappen how you give your teammate that corner after a pitwall call.

[TAG]

Yes(although I don't agree with it), but this time it caused accident.

It caused slow speed contact, not an accident. Contact itself is not a punishable offense.

And yet, Vettel received 10s stop and go penalty for that(Baku 2017?), and even that wasn't enough for many of us here.

It took me couple of days to answer you, but here I am

The penalty was for the red mist of pulling over next to another driver and ramming his car into it.

[dans79]

And yet, Vettel received 10s stop and go penalty for that(Baku 2017?), and even that wasn't enough for many of us here.

One happened behind a safety car, the other happened during the race, they are in no way comparable!

[foxmulder_ms]

Not the first and the last time they will clash...
So I bring you some wise words of Charles:

Reporter: What happened with Max?
Leclerc: Nothing just an incident on the race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L42H4vkbHYc

Ves says it is not fair ?? so ???

[santos]

on L68 Leclerc was like: hey, this is my corner, move over. On L69: lets see how far I can open this door, please take the corner away from me.

Verstappen: Thanx!

now stop crying, Leclerc gave that corner to Verstappen how you give your teammate that corner after a pitwall call.

Quoting one of the greatest driver of F1: "All the time you have to leave a space".
Leclerc was a long Verstappen. Lap 68 Verstappen leaved a space, the next one, he didn't and there was contact.
This will open the door for some crazy overtakes.

[Pany]

Is not a matter of stewards, is the global F1 circus and Librty/constructors interest to stop for once Mercedes dominance. In Austria is redbull time. In addition they did very good hob with honda

In my opinion veestappen "had" to win. For the whole show and stop mercedes dominance for a little while. Some of you may understand me. I support redbul and mclaren and they need some "help". Ferrari moment will be Monza, maybe Germany

This could have happened in Canada but stewards decide to follow the rules more or less strictly depending on some circustantces not closely related to the race itself.

I think Verstappen deserved the win even if his move was very aggressive. Leclerc lost the race when the took the corner leaving enough space for Verstappen to take the inside.