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Dont jinx itdigitalrurouni wrote: ↑18 Jul 2019, 13:26I have to admit I'm incredibly pleased to see red bull up there. Very curious to see how many PUs they end up taking this year. I am under the impression the Honda is incredibly resilient because it's not been used very gently at all by Max. Exciting times!! Bodes well for next year!
Honda F1 technical director Toyoharu Tanabe admitted he was surprised to be so closer to the leading pace at Silverstone and said it could suggest the Red Bull-Honda package is not as far from Mercedes as it thought.
“Maybe, but we need to understand which corner or which straight we have a better lap time or speed,” Tanabe told Motorsport.com. “Then maybe we can analyse what is good here and what was wrong, what was the deficit in the past seven or eight races.
“It’s not very easy to tell, it looks like the gap got closer compared to previous races – not only the race, but also qualifying. But we have not an easy answer yet.”
“The starting point was not too bad compared to last year’s first race with the new spec,” said Tanabe. “It means we’ve learned a lot from last year, and the calibration quality we improved from the initial running. We still have areas to learn at the track after the race.
“In practice situations and real race situations. we could learn a small bit where we could improve our performance. In France, Austria, Britain, we have an improvement.”
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... l/4497635/
Mode, boost and overtake are totally separate things though.Juzh wrote: ↑15 Jul 2019, 21:59No mate. He was told repeatedly to back off and top up the battery to be in a better position to attack. At some point he was even instructed to go to mode 9, which is an even more severe battery charging mode (more clipping on the straights). This happened like 7 or 8 times during his battle with leclerc, until he was finally told to stop using the overtake button on every single straight, otherwise the battery was never going to charge sufficently.. He was topping out at ~320 kmh in leclerc's slipstream on hangar straight, and then vs vettel he was doing 335 kmh even when pulling out of slipstream. Difference was obvious. I will post extended onboard highlights of verstappen's race with telemetry and team radio soon and you'll see what i'm talking about.
Think they saying it was the right move for McLaren, necessary evil. McLaren are 100% faster than at any time with Honda. It was "expected" that with the RBR chassis that RBR/Honda would win races. RBR racing has fewer points and have won fewer races that they did at this same point last year with Renault. The odds are against them matching the 4 wins with Renault in 2018.
Think they saying it was the right move for McLaren, necessary evil. McLaren are 100% faster than at any time with Honda. It was "expected" that with the RBR chassis that RBR/Honda would win races. RBR racing has fewer points and have won fewer races that they did at this same point last year with Renault. The odds are against them matching the 4 wins with Renault in 2018.
So wonder what RBR are saying internally that they're not saying publicly.
I don't think touch screen would be ideal in this situation. They are trying to make the changes a driver having to make as foolproof as possible. Having been in the current generation simulator, IMO it is a chaotic, violent environment and between the G-forces, bumps and wearing gloves I don't think a touch screen would serve too well. There are over 50 settings a driver can change while driving and that is why almost everything is a two-step process. Just a way to confirm the change. For example, the Mode button gives a driver access to typically 20+ settings that are pre-programmed primarily for deployment and harvesting mappings. To go from "Mode 6 to Mode 7" requires the driver to turn the dial to the "+" position that has a detent and push the button once. Push it twice and it will go Mode 8, etc. The "-" position does the opposite. Simply turning the dial does nothing. That is reason why there is a blank position between the "+"and "Race","-" that does nothing as to try to prevent further driver error.
Merc is in a different league this year, the most dominant in F1 history. So you can't compare last year to this year. What you can say is that Honda is the only other PU manufacture to win other than Merc.diffuser wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 16:11Think they saying it was the right move for McLaren, necessary evil. McLaren are 100% faster than at any time with Honda. It was "expected" that with the RBR chassis that RBR/Honda would win races. RBR racing has fewer points and have won fewer races that they did at this same point last year with Renault. The odds are against them matching the 4 wins with Renault in 2018.
So wonder what RBR are saying internally that they're not saying publicly.
my wife has the same issue....Wazari wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 17:36I don't think touch screen would be ideal in this situation. They are trying to make the changes a driver having to make as foolproof as possible. Having been in the current generation simulator, IMO it is a chaotic, violent environment and between the G-forces, bumps and wearing gloves I don't think a touch screen would serve too well. There are over 50 settings a driver can change while driving and that is why almost everything is a two-step process. Just a way to confirm the change. For example, the Mode button gives a driver access to typically 20+ settings that are pre-programmed primarily for deployment and harvesting mappings. To go from "Mode 6 to Mode 7" requires the driver to turn the dial to the "+" position that has a detent and push the button once. Push it twice and it will go Mode 8, etc. The "-" position does the opposite. Simply turning the dial does nothing. That is reason why there is a blank position between the "+"and "Race","-" that does nothing as to try to prevent further driver error.
As far as voice command, there are times I have come close to throwing my Alexa out the window.
Wazari wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 17:36I don't think touch screen would be ideal in this situation. They are trying to make the changes a driver having to make as foolproof as possible. Having been in the current generation simulator, IMO it is a chaotic, violent environment and between the G-forces, bumps and wearing gloves I don't think a touch screen would serve too well. There are over 50 settings a driver can change while driving and that is why almost everything is a two-step process. Just a way to confirm the change. For example, the Mode button gives a driver access to typically 20+ settings that are pre-programmed primarily for deployment and harvesting mappings. To go from "Mode 6 to Mode 7" requires the driver to turn the dial to the "+" position that has a detent and push the button once. Push it twice and it will go Mode 8, etc. The "-" position does the opposite. Simply turning the dial does nothing. That is reason why there is a blank position between the "+"and "Race","-" that does nothing as to try to prevent further driver error.
As far as voice command, there are times I have come close to throwing my Alexa out the window.
gokarter wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 16:28Think they saying it was the right move for McLaren, necessary evil. McLaren are 100% faster than at any time with Honda. It was "expected" that with the RBR chassis that RBR/Honda would win races. RBR racing has fewer points and have won fewer races that they did at this same point last year with Renault. The odds are against them matching the 4 wins with Renault in 2018.
So wonder what RBR are saying internally that they're not saying publicly.
redbull is much happier with honda than with renault. You cant compare gasly performance with ricccardo. riccardo beat max and outqualified max a number of times and won some races by his own.they match up equally well. This year redbull only has max to get most of the points with gasly struggling big time.I still think they should try to get albon in and try or get hulk for next year for redbull. no engine failures for redbull and better performance by honda compared to renaults. last year silverstone redbull was 0.7 away from pole this is year 0.2 or less if not for turbo lag. Redbull have now a partner who can win a championship in 2020.
