drunkf1fan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 20:26
Dude, it wasn't the wrong call or unfair, and no people don't do that all the time and the penalty wasn't given just because his name was Grosjean. IN fact the stewards messed up, precisely because it was Grosjean and he was doing constant idiotic things and because of the severity and danger of the situation he should have received significantly more than a one race ban.
Watch the video of it again carefully. Knowing he was coming up to a tight and slow right hand turn he not only commits an incredibly aggressive move across the track right towards Hamilton. He can see him the whole way, he is easily seeable in his mirrors or just out of the side of his car. After he moves across he then moves the wheel again, there is a definitive extra move where he just straight up turns into Hamilton on purpose. He hit Hamilton, on purpose. He could see the grass was there, he knew Hamilton had no more room, he knew by the rules he wasn't allowed to crowd into Hamilton or fail to leave Hamilton room. He tried to use his car to intimidate Hamilton and in doing saw caused a massive crash that could have killed other drivers pretty easily.
I can't remember the last time off the start anyone intentionally smashed another car just because they didn't like them being there. Pushing them to the limit, sure, pushing them to the edge and leaving space, sure, pushing them to the edge then side swiping them on purpose to scare them into backing off... no. That's miles beyond anything else. As for promoting dirty driving? What? Grosjean did something incredibly dirty and got a race ban for it while you're saying he shouldn't have been given a ban at all.
In terms of the same crime, no, even at other points in a race it's exceptionally rare for anyone to purposeful move into a position where they are on the limit then purposefully side swipe a car next to you because 9/10 times the result will be that, ruining your own race.
If Lewis went on the grass, the crash would not in any way have been avoided. he was already at a high speed, going on the grass is WHAT CAUSED THE CRASH, he ended up two wheels on the grass because Grosjean shoved him there and had to brake hard for a corner... with two wheels on track with high grip and two wheels of track with low grip. That's literally what sent Hamilton's car into a spin, hitting Grosjean which then took the rest out.
Aside from the fact that it's against the rules to leave the track without good reason, the rules categorically say that if a car is alongside on a straight you must leave a cars width and can not under any circumstances run them off the track. Blaming Hamilton for not just going onto the grass, which is actually the very thing that happened and caused the crash is honestly, insane. Also no, if there hadn't been contact and Hamilton had managed to react in lightning speed and managed to avoid the hit by moving to the grass, the exact same thing would have happened and it would still have been easily visible on video that Hamilton went onto the grass avoiding a sideswipe from Grosjean who broke the rules by doing that, it would still have been 100% Grosjean's fault.
Grosjean's one race ban was very lenient for what he did and no, that kind of action is as rare as anything in F1 and previous incidents of hitting someone on purpose in dangerous situations are rarely if ever let off.
Sorry to everyone else for ranting but that was one of the most ignorant and ridiculous 'takes' on that incident possible. Not even knowing enough to know that the crash happened because Hamilton ended up trying to brake while on the grass, thinking it would have been avoided had Hamilton just taken to the grass himself and that somehow giving him a ban for one of the most dangerous bits of driving in the past decade or two of F1 is encouraging dirty driving. It's straight up unbelievable.
