2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

[falonso81]

Usually the guy who wins the race, deserves to win the race. And no, I will absolutely not tolerate anything between the lines of "but...but...but... what about CANADA?". Shut it and swallow it

But but but, what about the races that the leader comes to a halt 1 or 2 laps from the finish line and the guy in a distant second place at the time claims the win. Wouldn't the leader up to that point, deserved the win more?

[garygph]

Usually the guy who wins the race, deserves to win the race. And no, I will absolutely not tolerate anything between the lines of "but...but...but... what about CANADA?". Shut it and swallow it

But but but, what about the races that the leader comes to a halt 1 or 2 laps from the finish line and the guy in a distant second place at the time claims the win. Wouldn't the leader up to that point, deserved the win more?

No not necessarily as he may not looked after his equipment as well as the guy that was running second

[Pyrone89]

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Swap Friday weather with Sumday and it would be fun (no Friday data, overheatimg and tyre issues on sunday). Unfortunately now it is going to be a straightforward Mercedes 1-2 judging on their wet race pace last years and the fact that 25 degrees is cooler than expected.

[ENGINE TUNER]

I hope he wins too. Because i’d rather see a Vettel at the top of his game, than one who is struggling. And admittedly, i’m getting annoyed by the constant bashing of him. His made mistakes, sure, but he’s also delivered awesome drives and poles in his career and when the car was to his liking.

You are seeing vettel at the "top of his game", he has always been mistake and accident prone.

[Just_a_fan]

Unfortunately now it is going to be a straightforward Mercedes 1-2 judging on their wet race pace last years

Since when did last year's car determine how good this year's car is? The W10 is not the W09. The drivers are the same, however...

[NathanOlder]

Unfortunately now it is going to be a straightforward Mercedes 1-2 judging on their wet race pace last years

Since when did last year's car determine how good this year's car is? The W10 is not the W09. The drivers are the same, however...

Made me chuckle too. If the whole 'last years car was good in the wet, so this years will be too' means the Merc will be good in the wet forever

[Restomaniac]

Usually the guy who wins the race, deserves to win the race. And no, I will absolutely not tolerate anything between the lines of "but...but...but... what about CANADA?". Shut it and swallow it

With regard to the last comment. Reminds me of a film I once watched

[Pyrone89]

Unfortunately now it is going to be a straightforward Mercedes 1-2 judging on their wet race pace last years

Since when did last year's car determine how good this year's car is? The W10 is not the W09. The drivers are the same, however...

Made me chuckle too. If the whole 'last years car was good in the wet, so this years will be too' means the Merc will be good in the wet forever

Are you seriously questioning this?

Ofcourse it is different when there is a major rule change which hurts that specific team (didnt with Merc). Furthermore Mercedes for years have no trouble getting tyres up to temp (lasting them was a different story until the 2019 Pirelli compounds) which is really important in the wet. The W10 is a direct descendant of the previous cars which were amazing in the wet.

[sprint car76]

Was the mercedes or the driver that was amazing?

[dtro]

Will probably see the teams compromising qualifying pace if rain becomes a certainty moreso than a possibility. Just want to see the field stirred up a bit. Keep the streak going.

[NathanOlder]

Was the mercedes or the driver that was amazing?

One race that spring to mind are Monaco 2016, where the almighty dominating wet weather beast finished 7th I think it was behind a RedBull, Force India, Ferrari, Mclaren......

while the other Mercedes finsihed a lap ahead. Car or Driver on that day.

[Hammerfist]

Since when did last year's car determine how good this year's car is? The W10 is not the W09. The drivers are the same, however...

Made me chuckle too. If the whole 'last years car was good in the wet, so this years will be too' means the Merc will be good in the wet forever

Are you seriously questioning this?

Ofcourse it is different when there is a major rule change which hurts that specific team (didnt with Merc). Furthermore Mercedes for years have no trouble getting tyres up to temp (lasting them was a different story until the 2019 Pirelli compounds) which is really important in the wet. The W10 is a direct descendant of the previous cars which were amazing in the wet.

We have no idea how this year's car will perform in the wet. Yes, signs are that it will be good since it is the best car on the grid anyway, but we cannot be certain of their wet weather performance simply because there hasn't been any meaningful wet running yet this year.

[zibby43]

We have no idea how this year's car will perform in the wet. Yes, signs are that it will be good since it is the best car on the grid anyway, but we cannot be certain of their wet weather performance simply because there hasn't been any meaningful wet running yet this year.

This is true. That said, the general rule of thumb is that, in wet weather, downforce is king. You've got a lower coefficient of friction on a wet track. Raindrops (and spray from other cars) accumulate on the aerodynamic surfaces of the car and interfere with the laminar flow the surfaces prefer (disrupting aerodynamic performance).

Teams are forced to crank on as much front wing as possible in wet conditions. So, if you're starting from a place of more downforce, you're off to a good start . . . and this year's W10 has a lot of downforce.

There are other factors at play - a car's rake, the slightly increased ride height of the car on the wet weather compounds, suspension setup (cars will be staying off the curbs in wet conditions), etc.

[Capharol]

Since when did last year's car determine how good this year's car is? The W10 is not the W09. The drivers are the same, however...

Made me chuckle too. If the whole 'last years car was good in the wet, so this years will be too' means the Merc will be good in the wet forever

Are you seriously questioning this?

Ofcourse it is different when there is a major rule change which hurts that specific team (didnt with Merc). Furthermore Mercedes for years have no trouble getting tyres up to temp (lasting them was a different story until the 2019 Pirelli compounds) which is really important in the wet. The W10 is a direct descendant of the previous cars which were amazing in the wet.

the 2016 RB was good in the rain aswell, the 2018 RB on the other sucked in the rain, but won 5 races last year .....
and the difference between the 2016 and 2018 RB? not much because there were no big rule changes .... so yes we are seriously questioning your statement ....

[Vasconia]

Unfortunately now it is going to be a straightforward Mercedes 1-2 judging on their wet race pace last years

Since when did last year's car determine how good this year's car is? The W10 is not the W09. The drivers are the same, however...

Downforce helps and Mercedes has a lot of it. With few exceptions they have been strong in wet.