2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

[Scorpaguy]

Germany 2019:

Red Bull...for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee Pierre
Ferrari...the reports of #5's death have been greatly exaggerated
Torro...DK would be a multiple race winner by now if not for the great talent of Vers
Force RP...even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then
Mcl...Nando, take the Indycar ride, the F1 door is shut.
Alfa...Kimi still has it
Haas...do Rom and Mag even get a plane ticket home after this?
Merc...Toto throws his hands up in despair, and there was much rejoicing
Williams...Kub beats a car on track!
Ren...ouch

[Jolle]

Looks like at Alfa they did some data uploading for the clutch before the start of the race.

[Aesop]

Let's be honest, he pulled 30sec lead in the rain with ease.

Not really. Bottas played the perfect wingman to hold up Verstappen and Hamilton got 20 sec for free cause of pitstopstrategy.

it was not a wingman effort! He did that for himself, because if not he would have to stack behind lewis and lose his second place to Max...it was brilliant effort from Bottas to save his second place.
P.S please stop with the hate! and look at things objectively, i know all the haters are desperate to slander Lewis when he has a rare bad race. he doesnt have that many bad races does he?

Where is the hate in my statement? It’s just an objective observation about the gap Lewis had.

[siskue2005]

Not really. Bottas played the perfect wingman to hold up Verstappen and Hamilton got 20 sec for free cause of pitstopstrategy.

it was not a wingman effort! He did that for himself, because if not he would have to stack behind lewis and lose his second place to Max...it was brilliant effort from Bottas to save his second place.
P.S please stop with the hate! and look at things objectively, i know all the haters are desperate to slander Lewis when he has a rare bad race. he doesnt have that many bad races does he?

Where is the hate in my statement? It’s just an objective observation about the gap Lewis had.

the observation was completely false, statement like he got 20 sec coz his wingman slowed everyone shows the true intention

[Aesop]

it was not a wingman effort! He did that for himself, because if not he would have to stack behind lewis and lose his second place to Max...it was brilliant effort from Bottas to save his second place.
P.S please stop with the hate! and look at things objectively, i know all the haters are desperate to slander Lewis when he has a rare bad race. he doesnt have that many bad races does he?

Where is the hate in my statement? It’s just an objective observation about the gap Lewis had.

the observation was completely false, statement like he got 20 sec coz his wingman slowed everyone shows the true intention

Read again.
It was about 10 seconds because Bottas couldnt keep up. Plus 20 cause of beneficial Pitstopstrategy. Fact. Again, no hating on Lewis, great champion and driver in the wet.

[siskue2005]

Where is the hate in my statement? It’s just an objective observation about the gap Lewis had.

the observation was completely false, statement like he got 20 sec coz his wingman slowed everyone shows the true intention

Read again.
It was about 10 seconds because Bottas couldnt keep up. Plus 20 cause of beneficial Pitstopstrategy. Fact. Again, no hating on Lewis, great champion and driver in the wet.

Lol
then why were you mentioning about his wingman?

How long will it take for them to relase the alfa cars verdict?

[falonso81]

I need someone to clear something up. Just before the first safety car on lap 3, Hamilton was 3 sec in front and by the time he finished the lap and pitted, the gap went up to 7+ sec. Bottas holding up Max to aid Merc double stack or Lewis going fast in SC conditions? To me it seemed like Hamilton was driving somewhat fast for a full SC period. He was not flat out but he was certainly not at SC pace. Is that allowed?

[Restomaniac]

I need someone to clear something up. Just before the first safety car on lap 3, Hamilton was 3 sec in front and by the time he finished the lap and pitted, the gap went up to 7+ sec. Bottas holding up Max to aid Merc double stack or Lewis going fast in SC conditions? To me it seemed like Hamilton was driving somewhat fast for a full SC period. He was not flat out but he was certainly not at SC pace. Is that allowed?

I imagine it was a calculated delta that included the loss of time for pit lane speed limit/entry.

[Pyrone89]

As much as this race was won by Verstappen, it was lost by Hamilton. When he lost his FW he was leading the GP by around 25-30 seconds.

Nah he was less than 10 sec ahead. A gap Max also managed to pull on 3 occassions

He was 30+ seconds ahead of Bottas with a 18 second stop still to take. So around 12 in front of Bottas but more when it comes to Verstappen.... but he’d just spun. So even more on top of that and then he pitted for the set of inters whilst Hamilton had his crash so in theory it was the 30 seconds had he put on the tyres he wanted.

He also leaped Bottas because of the safety car didn’t he.

Max pulled the advantage when he had Hulk behind him didn’t he? Can’t remember him pulling a huge gap on any other time.

Pit adjusted Hamilton was never more than 13 seconds in front. Verstappen managed to make a 10 second gap twice or three times everytime the SC took away his advantage.
See here
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... Verstappen

[Sieper]

3 times. 1 time aided by the fact the Hulk was there. 1 time on a set of fresh inters they quickly grabbed when the SC started and one time end of race on kvyat and later Vettel.

[sosic2121]

What is the status of Hamiltons other investigation? Is decision made?

If Alfas are disqualified it could be important...

it was an error showing he slowed too much during the safety car, but it was actually him spinning off and hitting his car which caused the computer to think he was too slow.

Aaa ok
Thank you!

[Juzh]

vettel final SC restart and overtakes

https://streamable.com/iris6

[f1jcw]

Nah he was less than 10 sec ahead. A gap Max also managed to pull on 3 occassions

He was 30+ seconds ahead of Bottas with a 18 second stop still to take. So around 12 in front of Bottas but more when it comes to Verstappen.... but he’d just spun. So even more on top of that and then he pitted for the set of inters whilst Hamilton had his crash so in theory it was the 30 seconds had he put on the tyres he wanted.

He also leaped Bottas because of the safety car didn’t he.

Max pulled the advantage when he had Hulk behind him didn’t he? Can’t remember him pulling a huge gap on any other time.

Pit adjusted Hamilton was never more than 13 seconds in front. Verstappen managed to make a 10 second gap twice or three times everytime the SC took away his advantage.
See here
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... Verstappen

Pit adjusted time? Huh, I’ll stick to the timing screen which said 30 seconds. .

[Pyrone89]

He was 30+ seconds ahead of Bottas with a 18 second stop still to take. So around 12 in front of Bottas but more when it comes to Verstappen.... but he’d just spun. So even more on top of that and then he pitted for the set of inters whilst Hamilton had his crash so in theory it was the 30 seconds had he put on the tyres he wanted.

He also leaped Bottas because of the safety car didn’t he.

Max pulled the advantage when he had Hulk behind him didn’t he? Can’t remember him pulling a huge gap on any other time.

Pit adjusted Hamilton was never more than 13 seconds in front. Verstappen managed to make a 10 second gap twice or three times everytime the SC took away his advantage.
See here
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... Verstappen

Pit adjusted time? Huh, I’ll stick to the timing screen which said 30 seconds. .

Pit adjusted means: Verstappen pitted, Hamilton yet to pit.

Is this your first time watching racing?

[bonjon1979]

We have no idea how this year's car will perform in the wet. Yes, signs are that it will be good since it is the best car on the grid anyway, but we cannot be certain of their wet weather performance simply because there hasn't been any meaningful wet running yet this year.

This is true. That said, the general rule of thumb is that, in wet weather, downforce is king. You've got a lower coefficient of friction on a wet track. Raindrops (and spray from other cars) accumulate on the aerodynamic surfaces of the car and interfere with the laminar flow the surfaces prefer (disrupting aerodynamic performance).

Teams are forced to crank on as much front wing as possible in wet conditions. So, if you're starting from a place of more downforce, you're off to a good start . . . and this year's W10 has a lot of downforce.

There are other factors at play - a car's rake, the slightly increased ride height of the car on the wet weather compounds, suspension setup (cars will be staying off the curbs in wet conditions), etc.

As a general rule, Hamilton is king in the wet. He’s won every single set race since 2014.

This post of mine did not age particularly well! Bring forth the ridicule!