You may or may not remember that Hamilton flat spotted the tires in Baku, they weren't degrading and he had a decent gap to Bottas up to that point. It had precisely nothing to do with tire deg so using it as some kind of counter example when it was extremely out of the ordinary and literally the only example of Hamilton having to pit earlier is frankly ridiculous. It also turned out that basically no one that day had tire deg and the softer compound tire was faster despite being older and qualified on. There was so little deg that when a few teams tried to undercut they simply found the new tires slower, so everyone who didn't pit early pretty much decided to go long. Almost everyone who pit early ended up punished for it and as Bottas was a fair distance behind vettel and Hamilton had been compromised due to the lock up, they left him out.iotar__ wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 10:33Of course on a one stopper Mercedes had a disadvantage when it comes to "deg" against Ferrari when Bottas had this great race there and had to had a massive first stint to build the lead and defend it on the second. Nothing to do with track or low degradation (edit:" meaning general low degradation of the track "helping" Bottas if that's not clear") or any of this made up BS. Whereas Hamilton was nowhere. Conclusion: Bottas is only good on low deg track like Russiasearch wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 08:42no, it's no joke, I can see him taking Pole today - as he did on 3 of 4 front limited circuits so far this year. And if he does, that should be enough to finish ahead of Verstappen tomorrow.drunkf1fan wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 02:03
I'm not sure if that is a joke or not?
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His best circuits are those with little to no deg, Russia, etc, not front limited ones. As with Rosberg if he can qualify ahead or be ahead in the first corner at a track with hard passing like Singapore/Monaco, otherwise he'll be overcut or be a sitting duck late in the race as he was last year here, Brazil, USA and anywhere similar.. Not in Hungary here or Silverstone recently. Rubbish at those.
2nd edit: Baku 2 years ago Bottas was stretching stints and Hamilton had to pit becasue his tyres were done, presumably becasue of low track deg.
The rest of what you said mostly came across as gibberish.
As for anything being made up, Bottas has horrible tire wear. Again look at what happened in Brazil, or USA or anywhere that Ham is cruising up near the front as in USA 2017, while Bottas is dropping further and further back into 4th-6th place, then finally being so slow is passed by slower cars before he went on to do extra pitstops.
Look at Silverstone, where he had to pit much earlier, or as said Hungary last year pitting 10 laps earlier than Hamilton and horrendous tire deg by comparison. What about Austria, Hamilton dropped back for cooling reasons but towards the end of Bottas's stint he dropped back from Leclerc and Hamilton was running about a second behind because he didn't lose the performance Bottas did. Then despite the broken wing, staying out way longer and the much longer pitstop he almost passed Bottas at the end of the race as once again Bottas's tires fell off.
Lets put some numbers to Austria, when Ham came out of the pits he was 20.5 seconds behind Leclerc on lap 35 16.5 behind Bottas. Lap 55, Ham 19.5 behind Leclerc, only 14 behind Bottas lap 69, Ham 18.4 seconds behind Verstappen who leads now, 3 seconds behind Bottas.
Bottas shows this drop off almost everywhere.
