2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

[El Scorchio]

Today, Hamilton made the difference. Stayed with Verstappen throughout to force the strategy call., the two key moments were the superb laps after the first stop, where on any other track he'd probably have got past there and then, and the run to the end from the second stop.

Both drivers outperformed their cars and team mates today, and frankly the cars were pretty evenly matched on this circuit. Today Hamilton's racecraft and a clever call from the team made the difference.

[langedweil]

You're right, about 40 behind P2 ...
Even more insane.
And Fer only 40pts ahead against almost only Ver.
RB throws away 2nd in WCC if they retain Gas (which they will, mainly because of Honda).

[ringo]

I guess i am a troll for observing what's happening on track and posting data rather than emotions.

Tell me where mercedes was dominant. Look on Bottas. And don't say Bottas is crap as that's not proper support for that point.
Hungary is historically a strong track for Redbull cars. Today the cars were equal and Hamilton decisively used is opening laps on the hard tyres to close down the gap and start the pressure cooker. Let's not assume these drivers are equal in terms of experience and ability. Based on Max's radio he was seeking answers from his pitwall, while Lewis was dictating how to pace the car.

[GPR-A]

Max got smashed against the rocks.

I guess you ‘Hamboys’ are just the best, so comical..

As always, Red Bull optimizes their car for the fastest tyres to suit qualifying and Mercedes focuses completely on the mid-range to hardest and focuses on race.

[siskue2005]

I don't think the mercedes was faster, hamilton would have caught max much earlier and overtake more decisively.
I would say cars about equal with redbull advantage in middle sector and first. I think driver experience with managing pace won out; also hamilton has won here 7 times. That cannot be discounted.
Max got smashed against the rocks. Let's see what Nico has to say now and Christian Horner.

yes, i agree that experience and skill from Lewis won him the race.

[Big Tea]

Is it me* or are Merc - RBR races so much more interesting than Merc - Ferrari races? ( *I may be me. I find Ferrari so bland and political)

F1 has been revitalized by a Max and a resurgent Red Bull, long may it continue. I'm loving it

[Schuttelberg]

Mercedes much faster in race trim than any other team.. Amazing how much BS their PR dishes out!

Redbull was the fastest car today. No doubt. Hamilton's mercedes was slightly behind, but experience won out in pace and tyre management. Max was pushing too hard when he was leading hamilton. He just couldn't' hold on for long with hamilton behind.

My lord! Toto Wolff is on the f1techincal forum!!!

[Unc1eM0nty]

I don't think the mercedes was faster, hamilton would have caught max much earlier and overtake more decisively.
I would say cars about equal with redbull advantage in middle sector and first. I think driver experience with managing pace won out; also hamilton has won here 7 times. That cannot be discounted.
Max got smashed against the rocks. Let's see what Nico has to say now and Christian Horner.

Lewis was way faster, he was just managing his pace in the first stint, 2 second gap all the way, he only closed up when it suited him. The team were telling Max to push, he was flat out and took more out of his tires. Lewis on the other hand had plenty of rubber left.

Second stint was even clearer for me, Lewis closed a 6 second gap and pushed for the overtake, cooled off closed the gap again, then the team played a blinder and switched to a two stopper.

[Juzh]

Max got smashed against the rocks.

I guess you ‘Hamboys’ are just the best, so comical..

You need to save your energy, need it for the rest of the season to eat humble pie.

As always, Red Bull optimizes their car for the fastest tyres to suit qualifying and Mercedes focuses completely on the mid-range to hardest and focuses on race.

So basically youre admitting merc was the better car today, while just a post or two ago you were saying hamilton had destroyed max all on his own. Which one is it?

[Pyrone89]

Merc outsmarting a cautious Red bull.

Well it’s the first time in a while that RedBull have had real reason to be cautious. It’s also going to be a learning curve for Verstappen. It’s easy being the chaser.

What?

Max did everything right here. The W10 was simply faster and even then HAM could not get past as he said himself on the radio. Then the good strategy call and superior race pace of the W10 and an elite driver that HAM snatches the win.

But is anyone still doubting these 2 guys are by FAR the best in the world? They were on a planet of their own and put the nr. 3 on more than a minute (!!!!) and both lapped their teammates 2/3rds into the race (!!)

HAM quali 9,5 race 10
VER quali 10 race 10

Both are AWESOME. Please give them an equal car and get popcorn.

[GPR-A]

I guess you ‘Hamboys’ are just the best, so comical..

You need to save your energy, need it for the rest of the season to eat humble pie.

As always, Red Bull optimizes their car for the fastest tyres to suit qualifying and Mercedes focuses completely on the mid-range to hardest and focuses on race.

So basically youre admitting merc was the better car today, while just a post or two ago you were saying hamilton had destroyed max all on his own. Which one is it?

Did I say Hamilton "destroyed"? Never did I say Red Bull was faster either. My post above clears what I think, which is, Mercedes is preparing a faster race car, which it was today. But in Hungary, it was not always that the faster car wins.

[El Scorchio]

Oh, and Verstappen deserves credit for resisting what I am sure would have been a strong instinct/temptation to try and overly robustly defend a position or pull a Schumacher when Hamilton came past.

Granted, he didn't really have much left to defend with, but I feel last year he'd probably have done something desparate, rash or stupid in that position. So well done Max.

[Just_a_fan]

Driver of the Day, Verstappen? That shows the dutch fans all over the F1 web site. Such a joke!!!

made me smile that result. Internet votes are so pointless these days.

Well at least we dutch go to races and buy tickets so stop nagging

I'm not nagging, I find it funny. Anyone who thinks these polls are anything other than gamed by single-interest groups is deluded - even national elections are gamed these days. No idea why media companies keep doing them.

[Zarathustra]

Max got smashed against the rocks.

I guess you ‘Hamboys’ are just the best, so comical..

*stirring piece cut*

As always, Red Bull optimizes their car for the fastest tyres to suit qualifying and Mercedes focuses completely on the mid-range to hardest and focuses on race.

Lol whut?!!

Verstappen outperformed that Red Bull so hard yesterday during qualify..

Why do you think ‘the whole world’ went over the moon by it?!

I don’t know how about you- but I am enjoying these battles between Hamilton and Verstappen.

It’s good for the sport;
but let’s not call each other ‘fags’.. between Verstappen and Hamilton, it is Verstappen who is outperforming the car.

[Restomaniac]

Merc outsmarting a cautious Red bull.

Well it’s the first time in a while that RedBull have had real reason to be cautious. It’s also going to be a learning curve for Verstappen. It’s easy being the chaser.

What?

Max did everything right here. The W10 was simply faster and even then HAM could not get past as he said himself on the radio. Then the good strategy call and superior race pace of the W10 and an elite driver that HAM snatches the win.

But is anyone still doubting these 2 guys are by FAR the best in the world? They were on a planet of their own and put the nr. 3 on more than a minute (!!!!) and both lapped their teammates 2/3rds into the race (!!)

He still needs experience being a constant front runner as he doesn’t have that. Stop looking for me finding fault when I’m not. I’ve consistently stated in this forum that the talent in Verstappen is clear but he is far more used to chasing.