2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

[Shrieker]

Merc. and Hamilton won this in the first stint, when they extended and put Red Bull & Max in a position where they had to push on new hards for a good 3-4 laps to retain the lead. Those 3-4 laps came back to bite them in the a$$ in the end.

[foxmulder_ms]

Agreed, that is what I am saying. But some people here are acting like VER was ‘beaten’ by HAM in driving skill which was obviously not the case. It is quite hypocritical when we make fun of the strategy guys when they mess up but not give credit when they get the win. HAM and Merc acknowledged it was the strategy guys today with their post race comments and Vowles on the podium.

bottas has the same strat mate. You are underestimating what Hamilton did today.

Bottas was stuck in traffic.

In the Ziggo interview Hamilton admitted they had a slightly quicker car than RB this weekend. Couple that with a great strategy call and you win.

Why is so hard to admit Hamilton did a great job? MASTER class from the team and the pilot! Period. We have seen very few of this moments in F1. He closed 6 sec advantage Vest has in 1.5 lap. Then closed a 20sec in 14 laps and passed the leader. No one else even attempted to do 2 stops so it was the slower strat overall. And this was a circuit where passing is very difficult. He lapped his teammate albeit as you said he was in traffic which still does not change Bottas was under-performing. Ves did a great job yesterday but today he couldn't resist Ham/Merc combo. You cannot dismiss Ham and glorify Merc.

[siskue2005]

Agreed, that is what I am saying. But some people here are acting like VER was ‘beaten’ by HAM in driving skill which was obviously not the case. It is quite hypocritical when we make fun of the strategy guys when they mess up but not give credit when they get the win. HAM and Merc acknowledged it was the strategy guys today with their post race comments and Vowles on the podium.

bottas has the same strat mate. You are underestimating what Hamilton did today.

Bottas was stuck in traffic.

In the Ziggo interview Hamilton admitted they had a slightly quicker car than RB this weekend. Couple that with a great strategy call and you win.

i didnt know that Mercedes car had tesla's autopilot in it!
it seems all u need to do in the mercedes is to switch it on and the stragergy team to do the work, and voila it is a race winner

where as other dirvers are gods who can bend the rules of physics

[Sieper]

Leclerc continues his silly racing streak. The way he destroyed Valtteri's race and got away with it is simply unacceptable.
I think FIA should do something with that kind of things.

Agree. Or maybe not FIA but better Charles himself.

[ringo]

haha last week in germany was the perfect example of team strategy winning a race. Redbull pretty much won on strategy and not great driving. But you wont hear the max fans admitting to it.

Anyhow can there be a mid season thread to discuss projections of the last set of races?

Can Hamilton win another 6 or so races? He is now 10 shy of Shumacher's record. I believe before the middle of 2020 he will break that 91 win record.

[Sieper]

bottas has the same strat mate. You are underestimating what Hamilton did today.

Bottas was stuck in traffic.

In the Ziggo interview Hamilton admitted they had a slightly quicker car than RB this weekend. Couple that with a great strategy call and you win.

i didnt know that Mercedes car had tesla's autopilot in it!
it seems all u need to do in the mercedes is to switch it on and the stragergy team to do the work, and voila it is a race winner

where as other dirvers are gods who can bend the rules of physics

Just enjoy great racing by two great drivers with one of the two now finally getting a car that is coming into the range to actually compete. Lewis is an all time great on top of his game, you cannot match that with one hand behind the back.

[Morteza]

https://twitter.com/PHortonF1/status/11 ... 3015828480

[Sieper]

haha last week in germany was the perfect example of team strategy winning a race. Redbull pretty much won on strategy and not great driving. But you wont hear the max fans admitting to it.

Anyhow can there be a mid season thread to discuss projections of the last set of races?

Can Hamilton win another 6 or so races? He is now 10 shy of Shumacher's record. I believe before the middle of 2020 he will break that 91 win record.

Last week Max pulled a gap 3 times, just acknowledge he is doing something OK.

All this desperation talk is not nice to read. Just be Fair to both (and all others).

[siskue2005]

haha last week in germany was the perfect example of team strategy winning a race. Redbull pretty much won on strategy and not great driving. But you wont hear the max fans admitting to it.

Anyhow can there be a mid season thread to discuss projections of the last set of races?

Can Hamilton win another 6 or so races? He is now 10 shy of Shumacher's record. I believe before the middle of 2020 he will break that 91 win record.

Last week Max pulled a gap 3 times, just acknowledge he is doing something OK.

All this desperation talk is not nice to read. Just be Fair to both (and all others).

Pulled a gap to who? Hulkenberg, Stroll and Kyvat is not a great deal mate

[V12-POWER]

bottas has the same strat mate. You are underestimating what Hamilton did today.

Bottas was stuck in traffic.

In the Ziggo interview Hamilton admitted they had a slightly quicker car than RB this weekend. Couple that with a great strategy call and you win.

Why is so hard to admit Hamilton did a great job? Because he is black? MASTER class from the team and the pilot! Period. We have seen very few of this moments in F1. He closed 6 sec advantage Vest has in 1.5 lap. Then closed a 20sec in 14 laps and passed the leader. No one else even attempted to do 2 stops so it was the slower strat overall. And this was a circuit where passing is very difficult. He lapped his teammate albeit as you said he was in traffic which still does not change Bottas was under-performing. Ves did a great job yesterday but today he couldn't resist Ham/Merc combo. You cannot dismiss Ham and glorify Merc.

He was 15 secs behind with 14 laps to go - Merc took a risky strategy and it worked. Nothing max could do as was seen when ham overtook him, the tires fell apart by that point (braking 10-15m earlier, poor cornering speeds and getting very late on the throttle)

Ham couldn’t overtake verstappen earlier when both had similar tyres (talking about tyre life)

Overtaking him at the final stages looked like he didn’t even try, and a degree in engineering isn’t necessary to realize this, the circuit being “hard to overtake” part being irrelevant with such different deltas

Even Hamilton himself doubted the strategy. Bottas race was ruined and once you lose that animical “edge” you hardly get it back within the race unless something out of the ordinary happens.

So it was a gamble and it would have worked anyways since Hamilton was within drs range with 4 laps to go.

[Pyrone89]

haha last week in germany was the perfect example of team strategy winning a race. Redbull pretty much won on strategy and not great driving. But you wont hear the max fans admitting to it.

Anyhow can there be a mid season thread to discuss projections of the last set of races?

Can Hamilton win another 6 or so races? He is now 10 shy of Shumacher's record. I believe before the middle of 2020 he will break that 91 win record.

Last week Max pulled a gap 3 times, just acknowledge he is doing something OK.

All this desperation talk is not nice to read. Just be Fair to both (and all others).

Pulled a gap to who? Hulkenberg, Stroll and Kyvat is not a great deal mate

Didnt know Bottas and Ham changed names

[turbof1]

Alright children, calm down.

I'll be going through this topic later on and there will be action taken. If the bickering and manbag slapping continues after this post, you'll get even harsher penalties. You have been warned. It ends HERE.

I'm locking his topic for 30 minutes. Gives you a chance to calm down and to read this message.

EDIT: really looking forward to going through 10+ pages of utter horsesh*t from you f*ckers. Also looking forward to all the boneheads PM'ing how unfair the warning is and how Verstappen/Hamilton biased we are. All on a Sunday. Class act, gents!

EDIT2: back open. Yes, I'm f*cking late with it. Blame yourself for all the work and time that went into it. All the above is still in session. If even anybody's pinky is going into a direction of an insult, accusation of bias or personal comment, you will have to sit out the next race in the banned section of this forums, like the little naughty child you are.

[Zarathustra]

Why is so hard to admit Hamilton did a great job? MASTER class from the team and the pilot!

Because it isn’t..

Great strategy by Mercedes and performance from Hamilton.

[Restomaniac]

Right.

Hamilton brilliant with a brilliant team call with them being second and in a position to do so.
Verstappen brilliant but being in first they couldn’t roll the dice like Mercedes could also a more grown up drive from Verstappen including taking all the points available by not fighting an unwinable fight late on.
Ferrari nowhere and shockingly bad. As where the other Mercedes and RedBull drivers.

[PlatinumZealot]

Holy Jesus!

What a race!

ALL HAIL The BOSS GOAT!



Unbelieveable drive! A masterclass in tyre conservation and applying pressure at the right moments!