2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[IvailoStefanovBG]

I think Honda and Mercedes are very close regarding PU. Didn`t heard RB talking about fuel saving in HU?

[Wouter]

Mercedes wil also have a new engine, their soec 3.
The question is: How much HP do they get extra?

[Marti_EF3]

I think the Merc PU is slightly better on fuel effuciency. And they maybe can start the race with less fuel on the tank. But it's a great sign by Honda they seem to not save fuel during the race, and with higher modes during the last races (excluding Germany).

With the HP increase of the Spec 4 and fuel, they should be able to add more downforce without loosing top speed.

[isullivan]

When do you think they are going to take new components penalties ?

[Just_a_fan]

I think the Merc PU is slightly better on fuel effuciency. And they maybe can start the race with less fuel on the tank. But it's a great sign by Honda they seem to not save fuel during the race, and with higher modes during the last races (excluding Germany).

With the HP increase of the Spec 4 and fuel, they should be able to add more downforce without loosing top speed.

The one thing that fuel economy allows is that Mercedes (or whomever) can take a full tank if they wish and then drive flat out for longer. The small pace loss from the extra fuel weight might be offset by being able to force your competitors to have to fuel save. They then become easier to chase / run away from.

[dxpetrov]

When do you think they are going to take new components penalties ?

Why would anyone had to think?! It's already confirmed - Monza. That engine will last till the end, except if they found a substantial power gain in the meantime.

[Wouter]

When do you think they are going to take new components penalties ?

Why would anyone had to think?! It's already confirmed - Monza. That engine will last till the end, except if they found a substantial power gain in the meantime.

That is not correct. They have to race 9 races with the spec 4?
There will be a spec 5 at the end of the season or another new spec 4.

[Juzh]

anyone seriously believing 40 or even 25 hp increases mid sesason fairytales needs a rethink or two. 40 bhp is worth at worst 0.5s on tracks like singapore and at best 1.5-2s on a track like monza. Miracles don't happen, so just forget it.

[NL_Fer]

They can use spec 3 in Singapore.

[Pyrone89]

They can use spec 3 in Singapore.

Why? That is a race they can possibly win so they need every bit of performance. The championship is already gone so going for individual wins now.

[Wouter]

anyone seriously believing 40 or even 25 hp increases mid sesason fairytales needs a rethink or two. 40 bhp is worth at worst 0.5s on tracks like singapore and at best 1.5-2s on a track like monza. Miracles don't happen, so just forget it.

Honda is talking about a big upgrade. Last year they had two times a > 25 hp upgrade
at the second half of the season.
So yes, I think that the upgrade is at least 25 hp, which they as always release a bit of in every race
and the whole upgrade in Japan. So no "mid sesason fairytales".

[loner]

what you see here add around 40 hp upgrade and Exxon and look for the coming races
https://streamable.com/pr3qx

why 40? Where did you get this figure?

define a substantial upgrade when Honda say slight about 10 hp, couple this with Exxon upgrade in Sochi and 40 hp is in your hand.

[godlameroso]

It would be very impressive, Honda just needs to add .2 of performance relative to Mercedes to give Red Bull a shot at wins on every track. Alternatively Red Bull and Honda can each find a tenth relative to Merc on their half of the package.

I honestly believe with just a little more performance on the car, that Verstappen could win every race from here on out. That Mercedes will implode once the RB15 is the better car.

Easier said than done because the Mercedes spec 3 should be a nice bump. Mercedes has the luxury of not developing this year's car any more and still take the fight to the end. So they may abandon 2019, and start working exclusively on 2020.

[digitalrurouni]

With a 40 hp bump if Honda deliver and I think they will will that mean they'll be on par with the other PUs? But of course Renault will be untouchable with their 1000 hp PU

[loner]

anyone seriously believing 40 or even 25 hp increases mid sesason fairytales needs a rethink or two. 40 bhp is worth at worst 0.5s on tracks like singapore and at best 1.5-2s on a track like monza. Miracles don't happen, so just forget it.

remember 2018
This new Honda engine is worth half a second per lap more than the engine they’ve got in at the moment.

https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/2825 ... to-suzuka/