2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[nzjrs]

It's been like that since spain. Like I said it's what is common knowledge in the paddock.

The 1000hp is just some Journalist's propaganda. Trying to headlines..

Yeah not sure about the RBR regretting leaving Renault....Common knowledge had it that RBR with 2 teams was a better fit than McLaren's single team. Honda just became part of their cleaning House.

As far as "Bill's opinion" ... sounds a little bias.

Beware the triggered fanbase will not tolerate a criticism of the crown jewel in this forum. You will be lavelled a troll if u dont stand down.

Fan or not, it's your lack of coherent reasoning that triggers people.

[etusch]

Talk in the paddock is Renault are tied with Merc with power with Ferrari ahead and Honda bringing up the rear.

I for one have no way of confirming that. It's just what is common knowledge in the paddock

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

There is a good example front of us. Spec 3. It looked like there is not any gain with the update in the first race. Because of reliability first aproach. And then let hp's run freely around.
Let's assume Renault has 1000 hp ( I like Renault in fact. If it is true no problem for me) but there is not reliability What is point of it.

[diffuser]

Talk in the paddock is Renault are tied with Merc with power with Ferrari ahead and Honda bringing up the rear.

I for one have no way of confirming that. It's just what is common knowledge in the paddock

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

If I remember correctly he was offered significantly less money than Max at RBR and Renault offered Ricardo significantly more than Max is getting. So I'm sure from that prospective he is extremely happy. Although Horner didn't say that.

Listen things at RBR haven't changed significantly from last few years. They are pretty much in same place. The real change this year is Ferrari's pace, Vettel in particular.

[diffuser]

Talk in the paddock is Renault are tied with Merc with power with Ferrari ahead and Honda bringing up the rear.

I for one have no way of confirming that. It's just what is common knowledge in the paddock

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

There is a good example front of us. Spec 3. It looked like there is not any gain with the update in the first race. Because of reliability first aproach. And then let hp's run freely around.
Let's assume Renault has 1000 hp ( I like Renault in fact. If it is true no problem for me) but there is not reliability What is point of it.

Nope paddock talk, not Renault...I do need to apologise that I can't really find the articles. Right now. At any rate I don't think lack of power is any of the teams problems right now. All the PUs have more than enough power than the chassis can handle.

[diffuser]

Talk in the paddock is Renault are tied with Merc with power with Ferrari ahead and Honda bringing up the rear.

I for one have no way of confirming that. It's just what is common knowledge in the paddock

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

There is a good example front of us. Spec 3. It looked like there is not any gain with the update in the first race. Because of reliability first aproach. And then let hp's run freely around.
Let's assume Renault has 1000 hp ( I like Renault in fact. If it is true no problem for me) but there is not reliability What is point of it.

They have been reliable since Monaco.When they introduced a fix for the issue they had.

They took a risk with Ricardo using and old PU, the source of the last failure.

[loner]

They have been reliable since Monaco.When they introduced a fix for the issue they had.

They took a risk with Ricardo using and old PU, the source of the last failure.

Hulkenberg's Hungarian GP compromised by engine "safe mode"
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... o/4508331/
McLaren, Renault trace cause of Norris' Germany failure
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/norr ... y/4504578/
GERMAN GP: Ricciardo retires as smoke erupts from rear of Renault
https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2019/ ... nault.html

[loner]

i can understand rushing power over reliability to safe face against RBR but i don't agree to such approach

[Big Tea]

Talk in the paddock is Renault are tied with Merc with power with Ferrari ahead and Honda bringing up the rear.

I for one have no way of confirming that. It's just what is common knowledge in the paddock

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

If I remember correctly he was offered significantly less money than Max at RBR and Renault offered Ricardo significantly more than Max is getting. So I'm sure from that prospective he is extremely happy. Although Horner didn't say that.

Listen things at RBR haven't changed significantly from last few years. They are pretty much in same place. The real change this year is Ferrari's pace, Vettel in particular.

I don't have a link, but I remember Horner (and co) saying that Ricciardo was offered all he asked for to stay, It was not over cash. I dont know that he did make the right move, but he made it at the time his value was highest.
I would not be at all surprised to see either him or seb back there soon though

[GhostF1]

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

There is a good example front of us. Spec 3. It looked like there is not any gain with the update in the first race. Because of reliability first aproach. And then let hp's run freely around.
Let's assume Renault has 1000 hp ( I like Renault in fact. If it is true no problem for me) but there is not reliability What is point of it.

They have been reliable since Monaco.When they introduced a fix for the issue they had.

They took a risk with Ricardo using and old PU, the source of the last failure.

Lol what!?
They most definitely have not been... Please see above for some examples by loner.

The fact they have had reliability issues with various components is the worrying thing. Not one singular issue to get a handle on.

[Capharol]

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

If I remember correctly he was offered significantly less money than Max at RBR and Renault offered Ricardo significantly more than Max is getting. So I'm sure from that prospective he is extremely happy. Although Horner didn't say that.

Listen things at RBR haven't changed significantly from last few years. They are pretty much in same place. The real change this year is Ferrari's pace, Vettel in particular.

I don't have a link, but I remember Horner (and co) saying that Ricciardo was offered all he asked for to stay, It was not over cash. I dont know that he did make the right move, but he made it at the time his value was highest.
I would not be at all surprised to see either him or seb back there soon though

exactly, RB had given RIC everything he asked for, even a short term deal that "IF" a seat came avialable at Mercedes or Ferrari he could leave....

"We gave Daniel everything he wanted and asked for and it still wasn't enough," said Horner. "We bent over backwards to make it happen."

Red Bull's complicity even extended to offering Ricciardo a short-term deal in case Mercedes or Ferrari sought his services for 2020.

"We were even prepared to do a one-year agreement should Ferrari or Mercedes come knocking in 12 months' time," Horner confirmed.

"It wasn't about money, it wasn't about status, position, commitment, or duration. If someone's heart is not really in it…"

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... do-leaving

[ivanlesk]

Talk in the paddock is Renault are tied with Merc with power with Ferrari ahead and Honda bringing up the rear.

I for one have no way of confirming that. It's just what is common knowledge in the paddock

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

Why you think - or better do you have any sensible proof that RB leaving them hurt them so much?
Did media said that? Did anyone from RB said that? Or maybe some one from Renault?

What would they gain by saying that they have more HP than others in your opinion?

[ivanlesk]

Talk in the paddock is Renault are tied with Merc with power with Ferrari ahead and Honda bringing up the rear.

I for one have no way of confirming that. It's just what is common knowledge in the paddock

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

There is a good example front of us. Spec 3. It looked like there is not any gain with the update in the first race. Because of reliability first aproach. And then let hp's run freely around.
Let's assume Renault has 1000 hp ( I like Renault in fact. If it is true no problem for me) but there is not reliability What is point of it.

I hope more powerful PU before reliability

Little bit contradictory isn't it?

[gokarter]

What would they gain by saying that they have more HP than others in your opinion?

Just Google it Cyril mentioning to the press that Renault will make Redbull racing regret leaving them. So obviously still angry with Red bull. I have no surprise they are boasting and claiming these figures. No other manufacturers have said anything about their bhp, just Renault PR BS

[etusch]

Paddock talk. It's really only Renaults claim and Cyril BS PR. Still surprise he is still having his job. I believe RB dumping them hurt them more and they feel like responding. I wonder Riccardo is thinking now

There is a good example front of us. Spec 3. It looked like there is not any gain with the update in the first race. Because of reliability first aproach. And then let hp's run freely around.
Let's assume Renault has 1000 hp ( I like Renault in fact. If it is true no problem for me) but there is not reliability What is point of it.

I hope more powerful PU before reliability

Little bit contradictory isn't it?

No.
If it is reliability issue that prevent you from finishing races then reliability first. But if you aim 7 races reliability before power then for me power first compared to reliability.

[Manoah2u]

It's been like that since spain. Like I said it's what is common knowledge in the paddock.

The 1000hp is just some Journalist's propaganda. Trying to headlines..

Yeah not sure about the RBR regretting leaving Renault....Common knowledge had it that RBR with 2 teams was a better fit than McLaren's single team. Honda just became part of their cleaning House.

As far as "Bill's opinion" ... sounds a little bias.

Beware the triggered fanbase will not tolerate a criticism of the crown jewel in this forum. You will be lavelled a troll if u dont stand down.

it's this which proves you act like a troll. if you can't dicuss normally, and only attack when your 'hero' gets critized, then you need to grow some reflection and breathing space. if you hate it here so much, why even bother? your negative 'reputation' count should indicate the problem is not everybody else, it is you yourself.