subcritical71 wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 11:28
Jolle wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 20:37
What I find most scary, is the disbelieve in science. That there are large groups of people who think they are all part of a conspiracy to somehow steer us away from something and follow politicians who are paid by oil companies and other interest groups benefitting from discrediting organisations like NASA, the WHO and others.
For me climate denial fall into the same group as flat earth theorist, ani vaccine moms, Alex jones listeners, Breitbart followers, etc etc.
This “us against the world” from the current American gouvernement is scary.
For me I’m not convinced one way or the other. That is because I have never bothered to do my own research into the subject. In general I don’t tend to form a personal opinion on anything that I haven’t at least partially researched on my own. So if you ask me today if I think man made GCC is real I would say I don’t know. Does that make me a nutcase because I haven’t blindly accepted what others are trying to cram down my throat? Does being called a nutcase help me form a ‘correct’ opinion on which side is using science to prove their own positions?
Is the earth flat, no. Is it round, no, and there is overwhelming scientific evidence to back that up. If uninformed people think that the earth is round (i.e. most of the population) are they also nutcases?
That's a wise attitude... but only to some point, as you can't pretend to understand everything. In modern world specialization has gone so far some people invest their whole life analysing some specific problem into some specific field, so you'd need same qualification to them, and also a good amount of time to analyse all their study, which obviously is not practical nor real.
As Jolle said that's the reason for companies or organizations like NASA, WHO, IPCC, etc, they're not relying on some specific opinion, their reports are based on deep studies which are supported by most scientifics, so sincerely, assuming you can know better than them just doing some hours of research in my eyes look arrogant, sorry for my frankness
Only reasonable reason for that attitude would be if you don't rely on these organisms, which as Jolle also said is scary if people don't rely on worldwide scientific organisms and think they can know better than them just with some search in the net
Obviously there will always be discordant opinions, but that's normal, nothing has ever reached 100% agreement, but when general consensus is clear for most scientifics, most scientific organisms and most countries, ignoring this general consensus and focusing on the discordant opinions don't look too sensible IMO, specially when this consensus has been growing for decades, from something pointed out from few scientifics, to current scenario with most scientifics agreement.
IMHO this progress during the decades speaks volumes about reality, specially when you consider it succeed despite oil companies efforts to hide it
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