2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Capharol]

well as said i am confused now because i didn't expect them to use a spec 2 engine in Spa and Albon still taking 5th.

this shows how powerfull that engine really is

[godlameroso]

The fuel won't be ready until Singapore, so one more race of frustration.

[aral]

well as said i am confused now because i didn't expect them to use a spec 2 engine in Spa and Albon still taking 5th.

this shows how powerfull that engine really is

Albon was 81 secs behind, so really there was a loss of around 2 secs a lap. So i wouldnt say that the engine was proving too much power. Reliable? Yes, but bearing in mind the great chassis, the car still has a big HP deficiency.

[Jaisonas]

I think the numbers are lost in translation somewhere. Over the weeks i've seen lots of sites quoting spec3 as spec2 and the new spec4 as spec3 etc. So read all of that with a grain of salt.

[Marti_EF3]

well as said i am confused now because i didn't expect them to use a spec 2 engine in Spa and Albon still taking 5th.

this shows how powerfull that engine really is

Albon was 81 secs behind, so really there was a loss of around 2 secs a lap. So i wouldnt say that the engine was proving too much power. Reliable? Yes, but bearing in mind the great chassis, the car still has a big HP deficiency.

That’s not fair, because he was battling throught the midfield. Curious, if he was on Norris position, how much behind (or close with the Mercs) he would have finished...

[Jambier]

then if they really used the spec 2 in Hungary and at Spa, i wonder how much power Spec 3 and 4 really has, and with this i don't mean these bogy numbers every site spits out
@Jambier every time they bring a new spec, numbers are swirling around that they have x hp more as the previous one .... so there must be a big gain lying around in these specs

I'm not sure the gap is on power.

But as said, this is global improvement. Reliability, driveability, power, fuel consumption etc...

[Wouter]

well as said i am confused now because i didn't expect them to use a spec 2 engine in Spa and Albon still taking 5th.

this shows how powerfull that engine really is

Albon was 81 secs behind, so really there was a loss of around 2 secs a lap. So i wouldnt say that the engine was proving too much power. Reliable? Yes, but bearing in mind the great chassis, the car still has a big HP deficiency.

That’s not fair, because he was battling throught the midfield. Curious, if he was on Norris position, how much behind (or close with the Mercs) he would have finished...

Once Albon was in clean air, when he was 6 sec behind Perez, he drove 1.5 sec / round faster then before.
The same average time as Hamilton, only he was on the Soft tires. And that with an older engine. +/- 1.47.500.

[HPD]

Apparently, Spec 3 was used very aggressively in previous races. (Explains Horner)
They had to return to Specification 2 for this reason.
Tanabe: "Maybe it's the conditions or some other calibration. It's not just a degradation problem."
https://racingnews365.nl/horner-motorpr ... n-de-motor

Spec 2 (Correction of reliability problem)
Spec 3 (turbo upgrade)
Spec 4 (ICE improvement)

For this reason we do not see so much difference between Spec 2 and 3.

[Marti_EF3]

Apparently, Spec 3 was used very aggressively in previous races. (Explains Horner)
They had to return to Specification 2 for this reason.
Tanabe: "Maybe it's the conditions or some other calibration. It's not just a degradation problem."
https://racingnews365.nl/horner-motorpr ... n-de-motor

Spec 2 (Correction of reliability problem)
Spec 3 (turbo upgrade)
Spec 4 (ICE improvement)

For this reason we do not see so much difference between Spec 2 and 3.

What is surprising is that the PU refuses to blow, it delivers less power, but with all that mileage and wear, it keeps working. Great Honda

[Jambier]

Really impressed with the progress they made at Honda.

I think 2020 will be the year that they can use only 3 PU and be as powerful to the best engine.
Big question mark is: Will it be enough to make RB a title contender ?

[gokarter]

Iam impressed by this spec. Remember max with spec 4 would even quicker. Kyatt with spec 4 was matching albon in a Redbull in the race. And we know TR is about second slower to Redbull car. With more mileage albon could be even quicker . needs time to get use to a different car

[McMika98]

Albon was 81 secs behind, so really there was a loss of around 2 secs a lap. So i wouldnt say that the engine was proving too much power. Reliable? Yes, but bearing in mind the great chassis, the car still has a big HP deficiency.

Mmm surely you are trolling. Just post the real data which is after the pitstop he was lapping the same times as leaders. So clearly the chassis is quite something but also the engine isnt bad in race trim. Alex as fast as Hamilton with spec 2.0 is amazing pace.

[loner]

its weird if they raced spec 2 with MV why didn't they introduce spec 4 as well he can't be really competitive with spec 2
he would finish p5 with spec 2 from p5 or from p20 any way.. and GAS could take the penalty in SPA also he was eliminated from q1.. almost like a brain fart from BRB and Honda.

[diffuser]

There are some positives to take away from today. Honda's new power unit is a success, Albon was much quicker than Leclerc late race. If we assume Verstappen to be .3 seconds faster than Albon, which was a similar gap to Riccardo then it stands that once the new fuel is introduced the fight is seriously on. We may get our 5 victories.

You forgot that he was on Softs while leClerc was on Medium? So what's that -1 sec per lap to LeClerc's/Hamilton's numbers for a true lap time to lap time compare?

What if you compare to Vettel?

What about Merc having their PU turned Down?

[gokarter]

I knew kind of wish max too the penalty and got spec 4. Spec 2 would be of no good in spa