2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[etusch]

If they want to finish the season with 4 engine,maybe they will use Spec2 or Spec3 to race at Monza again.

i say this is highly likely.

Looking at the ORF interview with Marko I remember him saying that Albon didnt use the new engine in the race because they thought they didnt need the power benefit it brought when starting from the back. With P5 almost a minute down on Vettel he proved to be right so I expect the same strategy for Max in Monza. And maybe even using spec2 and/or 3 again in Sochi weekend so they minimize milage on spec4 until Suzuka and let RB finish season with this spec 4 unit. TR can take spec 5 in final race so TR team is allowed to use spec 5 in post season test.

After Max retirement there is zero chance for top and now.aim is second place in both wdc and WCC. (Unless extremely lucky ham turns very unlucky)
Which is better I don't know. 4 engine or 5. They can change strategy if Ferrari live problems with the engine.
But season aims almost accomplished. 5 wins with 5 pus. They can fimish 4 or 5 easily and need 3 more win.

[Datco]

2nd in wcc is far from reach. 2nd in wdc is close. Max needs all the tools he can get. Realistically from what we have seen in Spa, Ferrari will be mighty on the Monza straights and Merc mighty out of parabolica. It's going to be hard to beat them. Max may as well take the penalty. Albon should also add another to his pool. DRS train may be a problem, but 5th and 6th should be possible from the back and very likely even if they start without penalties.

[etusch]

2nd in wcc is far from reach. 2nd in wdc is close. Max needs all the tools he can get. Realistically from what we have seen in Spa, Ferrari will be mighty on the Monza straights and Merc mighty out of parabolica. It's going to be hard to beat them. Max may as well take the penalty. Albon should also add another to his pool. DRS train may be a problem, but 5th and 6th should be possible from the back and very likely even if they start without penalties.

Hard but there is Albon any more. Unfortunately Max was not there last race. Otherwise maximum team points gained in spa would be different.
Monza will be different I think. because Albon will be there. After monza 2 Redbulls will be there which will cut more from Ferrari and add more to Redbull. ( If everything goes straight )

[GhostF1]

I'm not convinced this is a throwaway race. Max is saying the straights will make it hard, especially compared to Ferrari, but Merc is saying the same thing, the straights will make it very hard.

It's possible everyone is milking it a bit more than usual to get rivals off guard. Race pace will be the key and Ferrari don't run quali hard in the race, far from it.

[Wazari]

I'm wondering if they will try and squeeze two more races out of their existing engine pool. Something tells me that Spec 4.XX/5 (Spec 4 with revised turbo and intake plenum) should be ready by Sochi along with a fuel upgrade. Maybe skip Spec 4 altogether for Max and Gasly??

[ispano6]

I'm wondering if they will try and squeeze two more races out of their existing engine pool. Something tells me that Spec 4.XX/5 (Spec 4 with revised turbo and intake plenum) should be ready by Sochi along with a fuel upgrade. Maybe skip Spec 4 altogether for Max and Gasly??

Tanabe did say they will try so its a strong possibility. It depends on how much motivation there is to achieve 2nd in the constructors championship. If Spec4 doesn't bring us close enough then Red Bull may take penalties in Sochi, while with Toro Rosso refrain from penalties to secure 5th.

Horner seemed set on taking the Spec4 for Monza. I think its the right thing to do.

But hearing Hungary was lost with Spec2 solidified that this year is indeed a building year and there won't be a change in the PU sequence just to get a win. So Singapore would most likely see Spec3.

[godlameroso]

I'm wondering if they will try and squeeze two more races out of their existing engine pool. Something tells me that Spec 4.XX/5 (Spec 4 with revised turbo and intake plenum) should be ready by Sochi along with a fuel upgrade. Maybe skip Spec 4 altogether for Max and Gasly??

Along with new fuel? Won't that be coming around Singapore? After Singapore it's Sochi, that would be the latest they should take any new parts, and then ride that out to the end of the year. It would also give them time to hone the final step for the year.

Mercedes will have a real fight on it's hand and hopefully Ferrari can also join.

[loner]

its very possible for MAX to not use the new PU until SOCHI be it spec 4 or spec modified 4.
looking to the upcoming races Monza is a Ferrari territory and Singapore not so dependent on power.

[McMika98]

Max has no option but to use spec 4.0 as his engines on its last leg. Gasly can wait as he has two spec 3.0 in the pool which Albon took in Austria.

[fellowhoodlums]

If there is to be a spec5, why were Honda saving engines at Spa?

Why decide not to race spec 4? It can’t be to save mileage? Engines are meant to last 7 weekends.

I can understand if this was the last spec of season but we seem to be saying it’s not

[HondaPOD]

I'm wondering if they will try and squeeze two more races out of their existing engine pool. Something tells me that Spec 4.XX/5 (Spec 4 with revised turbo and intake plenum) should be ready by Sochi along with a fuel upgrade. Maybe skip Spec 4 altogether for Max and Gasly??

Thanks a lot Wazari san.
Since what happened in Saturday I had the same feeling as you.
here is my theory : Honda wants Max to use only 4 engine this year, and the plan is to introduce the Spec 5/4,5 in sutchi, that's why they use Spec 2 in Spa from FP1 to race. Max in Friday say they will use the last used engine. Spec 3 then my they didn't. Honda want to have the cards in hand in Monza.
I think they will use Spec 2 in Monza, Spec 3 in Singapore and Race day Suchi + Spec 4 added to the pool, and from then using the Spec 4 untill the end of the year.
an other theory, the Spec 4 will be introduced in Monza without turbo + turbo in suchi to minimize penalties.

[Alexf1]

Max has no option but to use spec 4.0 as his engines on its last leg. Gasly can wait as he has two spec 3.0 in the pool which Albon took in Austria.

Max's Spec1 is ending from what we heard by the comments after friday practice in Spa. But spec2 and 3 are built for 6 race weekends and havent even done fridays so they should still be ok. Spec 3 can be ahead in duty cycles but not milage.

[Alexf1]

All they need for Monza is an engine that takes them to 5th or 6th

[Jolle]

With the special layout of Monza, you could almost make a "Monza special" ICE and use it up for one race. Take a 5 place penalty, which is made up easy with extra power.

[dxpetrov]

There is no such thing as 5 place penalty. The actual penalty is: ''You get the F to the back of the grid''.