2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Albon expecting to race with Spec 4 Honda engine at Monza
Alexander Albon says he is expecting all four Honda-powered cars to run the upgraded power unit in the race this weekend at the Italian Grand Prix.

Honda introduced the new engine at the Belgian Grand Prix last weekend, demoting Albon and Toro Rosso's Daniil Kvyat to the back of the grid for the race.

However, it is believed that the engine wasn't used in the race. Max Verstappen and Pierre Gasly will receive the unit this weekend, which will see both start from the rear of the field.

"I think we are all expecting Spec 4 for the race," Albon told GPToday.net. "Toro Rosso should speak for themselves but I think it will be all of us."
https://www.gptoday.net/en/news/f1/2505 ... e-at-monza
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"Our new Spec 4 worked properly, the result from the data shows as we expected.

"At the moment we are happy, we will analyse the data and try to optimise the calibration to improve performance as much as we can for Monza."

Asked if he hoped its lingering Saturday deficit would be reduced now, Tanabe said: "I hope so. But other PU manufacturers have started to apply their latest specs.

"We haven't analysed the difference between their previous performance and [Spa].

"We will try to find out their improvement compared to our improvement but they don't wait for us.

"I hope we close the gap, but in reality from [Spa's] qualifying result we see a big gap between Ferrari and Mercedes - I don't know if they [Mercedes] had a problem in qualifying.

"I hope to close the gap, but it's not easy."

Red Bull team boss Christian Horner described Honda's data from Spa as "encouraging" and thinks the new unit has delivered "what is expected".
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14577 ... new-engine

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They tested the same wing in SPA in FP3.

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kvyat a bit bitter...
"I don't know why you call it such a good start?" said Kvyat when asked for his views on Albon's Red Bull debut.
"He spent 36 laps behind me in a Red Bull car. And then he started in front of me as well, so I don't know. Maybe in the future he will do better."
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loner wrote:
05 Sep 2019, 16:13
kvyat a bit bitter...
"I don't know why you call it such a good start?" said Kvyat when asked for his views on Albon's Red Bull debut.
"He spent 36 laps behind me in a Red Bull car. And then he started in front of me as well, so I don't know. Maybe in the future he will do better."
But it's absolutely true. Albon was stuck for ages behind much slower cars, before being elevated by offset tire strategy. Even albon himself said on radio after the race it wasn't a very good performance.

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Max: "In terms of power, this engine is going to bring us closer to Mercedes, although closing the gap with Ferrari in that area is still a difficult story. But it is at least another step forward. One of the bigger steps we've taken so far In terms of capacity, I think the biggest since the collaboration with Honda."
https://www.ad.nl/formule-1/nieuwe-moto ... ~a3d47037/
In fact, Albon was nothing spectacular at the beginning of the race. But he did a good job

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Juzh wrote:
05 Sep 2019, 16:21
loner wrote:
05 Sep 2019, 16:13
kvyat a bit bitter...
"I don't know why you call it such a good start?" said Kvyat when asked for his views on Albon's Red Bull debut.
"He spent 36 laps behind me in a Red Bull car. And then he started in front of me as well, so I don't know. Maybe in the future he will do better."
But it's absolutely true. Albon was stuck for ages behind much slower cars, before being elevated by offset tire strategy. Even albon himself said on radio after the race it wasn't a very good performance.
yeah but you would expect some support for Alex first race.
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If he (Albon) lost so much time and finished p5 what we could expect from Verstappen if he were not out

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it was Albon's first start in that car too. Better feel his way in than crash his way out
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HPD wrote:
05 Sep 2019, 16:31
Max: "In terms of power, this engine is going to bring us closer to Mercedes, although closing the gap with Ferrari in that area is still a difficult story. But it is at least another step forward. One of the bigger steps we've taken so far In terms of capacity, I think the biggest since the collaboration with Honda."
https://www.ad.nl/formule-1/nieuwe-moto ... ~a3d47037/
In fact, Albon was nothing spectacular at the beginning of the race. But he did a good job
so what ? MAX almost lapped the ferraris in hungary with the spec 2...
thats it folks its the biggest since the collaboration with Honda .. expect more 5 wins before season end :mrgreen:
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I hope it is enough to fight with Mercedes. Spec 3 was mighty close, if spec 4 delivers both reliability and power/efficiency improvements it may be enough to close down the overall .3 sec gap. We already have a strong package that can put pressure on the leaders and fight for wins. One more step would bring absolute parity, and from there it would just be a matter of going through the motions.
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Not much you can do at the beginning of race with heavy fuel once you get stuck on a drs train. Hopefully the new spec engine will help the boys but it will be difficult to move up the field if there is a drs train behind a slippery car like Force India or Sauber.

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McMika98 wrote:
05 Sep 2019, 19:32
Not much you can do at the beginning of race with heavy fuel once you get stuck on a drs train. Hopefully the new spec engine will help the boys but it will be difficult to move up the field if there is a drs train behind a slippery car like Force India or Sauber.
If your energy recovery system works efficiently you can overcome drs by electric power. But I think Mercedes is still most efficient one. Mercedes powered carscan run from it too.

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Juzh wrote:
05 Sep 2019, 16:21
loner wrote:
05 Sep 2019, 16:13
kvyat a bit bitter...
"I don't know why you call it such a good start?" said Kvyat when asked for his views on Albon's Red Bull debut.
"He spent 36 laps behind me in a Red Bull car. And then he started in front of me as well, so I don't know. Maybe in the future he will do better."
But it's absolutely true. Albon was stuck for ages behind much slower cars, before being elevated by offset tire strategy. Even albon himself said on radio after the race it wasn't a very good performance.
not quite. lap 25-37 you could count behind kvyat. then on he pased kvyat on track and was in front of him. before that he was in traffic just like kvyat and he technically was behind but so he could say about hamilton on some races as well. its not like you are supposed to fly past everybody when you are in redbull. at least he did not rear somebody twice while being behind.