2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

[nokivasara]

The easy fix would be that the time counts down to when you have to exit the pits, not when you cross the start/finish line. If you exit the pits with 1 second left you can do a flying lap.

[Restomaniac]

Hulk under investigation for leaving the track without justifiable reason in T1

Now that I agree with.

Leclerc did exacly the same in the first runs in Q3, Vettel also cut the chicane but he locked up.
https://streamable.com/9mdce

I missed LeClerc but was it as obvious as that?

[Restomaniac]

I rather enjoyed this game of chicken.

Q1: everyone comes out at 3:00. Plenty of margin.
Q2: everyone comes out at 2:15. Still enough margin.
Q3: everyone comes out at 2:00. Oops.

Biggest loser was RBR. They should have sent Albon out at 4:00. He had a good chance for P5 without a tow and probably wouldn't have ended up higher than that anyway.

True but the second RedBull pull that trigger everyone uses Albon for his tow. That was the problem.

At 4:00? I don't think so.

I disagree. They ALL just wanted a car to tow them. Nobody wanted to be at the front.

[MtthsMlw]

Now that I agree with.

Leclerc did exacly the same in the first runs in Q3, Vettel also cut the chicane but he locked up.
https://streamable.com/9mdce

I missed LeClerc but was it as obvious as that?

See the streamable link

[dans79]

Hulk under investigation for leaving the track without justifiable reason in T1

Now that I agree with.

Leclerc did exacly the same in the first runs in Q3, Vettel also cut the chicane but he locked up.
https://streamable.com/9mdce

How does he not get a penalty for that? he was literally coasting along for an f1 car. Vettel at-least locked up.

[Restomaniac]

Leclerc did exacly the same in the first runs in Q3, Vettel also cut the chicane but he locked up.
https://streamable.com/9mdce

I missed LeClerc but was it as obvious as that?

See the streamable link

Yeah I imagine Renault will use that to get Negate the Hulk evidence.

[El Scorchio]

Looks like he didn't "touch". His tyre is outer edge is hanging over the white line. What are the rules in tennis and soccer about that?

The rules in tennis and football are different. Football is about whether the whole of the ball breaks a vertical plane or not. Tennis is about whether the ball, when it bounces, makes contact with any part of the line or not. For me, the tennis interpretation is more sensible and easily enforcable here, due to the nature of the sport and available camera angles etc.

F1 does not have Hawk-eye though

Exactly- because it would be impossible to implement it. It doesn't come into play in other sports if there's a camera angle which shows a ball being clearly out anyway or in American football where an angle shows a foot out of bounds, so wouldn't be necessary with a shot of the tyres of a car being clearly over a white line as we have here.

[TAG]

https://twitter.com/EliGP/status/117033 ... 21031?s=20

So ehh, can we get VAR in here?

Sky commentators were bending over backwards to saw he was in. Can't imagine Italian coverage, but the fact he's keeping his lap is a joke.

On to Sunday.

[RZS10]

Remember when Vettel cut a chicane in Korea in qualifying - they investigated that but found that he did not gain an advantage ... Leclerc gained an advantage by being behind the Renaults in a slipstream ... why are they not investigating that?

[dans79]

I missed LeClerc but was it as obvious as that?

See the streamable link

Yeah I imagine Renault will use that to get Hulk off.

He shouldn't get off, he should get a penalty and so should Leclerc!

[F1NAC]

Bottas' time shouldn't have popped out as he didn't cross the line before red flag

[Jolle]

If Vettel can keep his time after being all four wheels off and Leclerc gets no penalty for cutting the chicane (although there isn't really a rule against, but feels unfair), I don't want to hear a word about the FIA favouring Verstappen or Mercedes anymore

[Restomaniac]

See the streamable link

Yeah I imagine Renault will use that to get Hulk off.

He shouldn't get off, he should get a penalty and so should Leclerc!

I won’t argue with that. However it’s Ferrari at Monza so.............

[dans79]

although there isn't really a rule against, but feels unfair)

Their is a rule against it, I'm almost 100% sure. You aren't supposed to leave the track without a good reason.

[KeiKo403]

Renault would do good to let the FIA penalise Hulk, then when the penalty gets applied FIA has to do the same to Leclerc and bingo, Ricciardo gets promoted to P4, maybe P3 if they're brave enough to penalise (or even just investigate) Vettel running wide in the final corner.