2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

[MtthsMlw]

All 9 drivers called to the stewards. That'll be fun.

[Jolle]

although there isn't really a rule against, but feels unfair)

Their is a rule against it, I'm almost 100% sure. You aren't supposed to leave the track without a good reason.

Oh yes, I read it now in the investigation of Hulk on the Fia page.

[DChemTech]

Why should hulk get a penalty? He yielded his lap, even went off track to make room for others to pass - their fault that they didn't

[Unc1eM0nty]

I loved it. It was hilarious to see this. I am not being sarcastic. I really enjoyed it. I like stuff like this. Hope they do not try to change anything because I love the qualifying format.

I've only just got back so I've not seen it, but as above I just find it stupidly funny

I don't see how they can punish the drivers as everyone was as bad as each other, if you punish them all then they'll all be in the same start position as they are now

They all had the opportunity to get ahead at some point of the lap

[DChemTech]

Indeed. They are all guilty of screwing up their own lap. They could easily get ahead and go for it, like Sainz did, but noone wanted to be first. And surprise, none of them was, now. They ruined their own chance, and are penalised already by doing so. No need for any other penalities. Other than that, it was absurdly hilarious.

[Holm86]

There should be a rule about a minimum time for a qualification lap, no matter if it's an outlap or warm up lap.

Should also put a stop for slow drivers messing up others fast laps

[Jolle]

There should be a rule about a minimum time for a qualification lap, no matter if it's an outlap or warm up lap.

Should also put a stop for slow drivers --- up others fast laps

Nah, this is fun. they all shot themselves in the foot, trying to outsmart each other. Most fun part was HULK trying to be clever going for the runoff, only finding out that Stroll and Sainz almost parked it and he came back in the lead

[aral]

There should be a rule about a minimum time for a qualification lap, no matter if it's an outlap or warm up lap.

Should also put a stop for slow drivers --- up others fast laps

There is. it was 1 min 45 at monza. however, the person at the head of the field was at fault for trying to back up the others so if it was shown that he was too slow, he should be put to the back of the grid.

[Xwang]

There should be a rule about a minimum time for a qualification lap, no matter if it's an outlap or warm up lap.

Should also put a stop for slow drivers messing up others fast laps

The rule already exist (at least for this GP https://www.fia.com/file/94110/download/28924) and funny to say but nobody has messed other fast lap in this case because they were all doing their out laps.
IMHO

[Jolle]

Would be fun, all nine to the back of the grid, Alfa locking out the front row?

[Phil]

I feel most people are missing the strategic and tactical nuances of what unfolded in Q3. What a pity.

Q3 wasn't only about getting a tow to achieve a better time - it was also about not giving your opponent a tow off you. Mercedes didn't want to go out first because they might have given an easy to tow to Ferrari. Ferrari didn't do it for the same reason. In the midfield, where the gap is even closer, the same applies.

Because the tow is that effective, it could have easily decided between a couple positions, so perhaps not getting a run is still better than going out first and giving a tow to your opponents, who then with that advantage could get a better time and beat you.

I.e.
If Mercedes had simply said, oh well, lets go when the clock hit 3:00 with both their drivers, everyone would have simply followed them - the result being that perhaps the front Mercedes driver would have been the big loser, being the one without a tow, while everyone else behind would have benefited. As it is, they qualified 2nd and 3rd instead. Same applies to Ferrari; 1st and 4th ain't bad given the potential risk.

I sincerely hope there are no penalties and that nothing is changed with the qualifying format. If people, drivers and teams want to complain, well then they should go out with more margin. It's that simple.

[Xwang]

All 9 drivers called to the stewards. That'll be fun.

What is the source? No official document has been released at the moment on fia.com.

[DChemTech]

There should be a rule about a minimum time for a qualification lap, no matter if it's an outlap or warm up lap.

Should also put a stop for slow drivers --- up others fast laps

There is. it was 1 min 45 at monza. however, the person at the head of the field was at fault for trying to back up the others so if it was shown that he was too slow, he should be put to the back of the grid.

I don't think he was trying to back up the others, he was trying to get behind them for tow. But well, they didn't let him, and result was they all missed out.

If it was about backing up, hulk would not have gone off track.

[Zynerji]

And for the record, there was space. Like Hollus said, you could put 2 wheels off road on the tarmac run offs. There were corners you could cut because apparently that was allowed (?). No, the guys behind weren't blocked. They had no intention to get in front. Atleast in my opinion.

As if putting 2 wheels in the grass to try and squeeze by is a good idea. You spin off, and get a penalty for dangerous driving.

Didn't Vettel get a penalty for passing Alonso on the grass here at Curve we Grande a few years ago?

[ringo]

https://twitter.com/EliGP/status/117033 ... 21031?s=20

So ehh, can we get VAR in here?

The tyre is vertically over the line, even though it is not touching so he is still on the track. Similar to if a car is airborn, not touching the track, but is considered to be on the track.