2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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gokarter wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 17:36
personally i would hire hulk because of his experience for next season. albon is new and needs time
Well
https://twitter.com/LiveGPit/status/1170351188656742401

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Honda explains Verstappen's power loss in Q1

Max Verstappen's loss of power in Italian Grand Prix qualifying was caused by excessive wheelspin triggering the activation of a Honda Formula 1 engine protection mode and an FIA system.
The Red Bull driver failed to set a time in the first part of qualifying when he reported "no power" exiting the first chicane.

He returned to the pitlane at the end of that lap and will start the race at the back of the grid, behind other drivers who have engine penalties this weekend.

Honda's F1 technical director Toyoharu Tanabe said that Verstappen got excessive wheelspin going over a kerb.

He said that triggered a spike in engine revs and caused both a "Honda protection mode and then an FIA system to cut in and reduce power".

Verstappen was second fastest in final practice at Monza, where he is using Honda's upgraded Spec 4 engine for the first time.

Alex Albon only qualified seventh, surprisingly behind both works Renaults, although was one of many drivers not to get a second flying lap in a farcical end to the session.

While Verstappen was left to bemoan his problem he does not anticipate a recurrence.

"I've done my long runs so I'm pretty confident," said Verstappen. "It has never happened before in the race."

Verstappen is also hopeful there will be no repeat of his complicated startline issues from the Belgian Grand Prix

"I had a few starts this morning and they felt good. I think there is room to improve, you never have a perfect start.

"It was pretty decent, but of course starting from the back it's not really highlighted."

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Verstappen would have been on pole today had this been a normal qualifying for him, or at least be VERY close. I kid you not. If you look at albon's sectors just before the red flag, he was almost 0.4s ahead of his previous best lap (1:20.0). Had he been able to at least match his Q2 sector 3 time he would land somewhere around 1.19.6. We know verstappen is 0.5s faster, and we can be 100% sure he is at least 0.3s faster. Pole position was not out of the question for him.

Q2 sectors - 1:20.0 laptime
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Q3 sectors - aborted lap
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McMika98
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Jaisonas wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 18:07
gokarter wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 17:36
personally i would hire hulk because of his experience for next season. albon is new and needs time
Well
https://twitter.com/LiveGPit/status/1170351188656742401
Albon swap happening as predicted. Maybe next year though.
Hulk isnt much faster than Albon so whats the point.

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Juzh wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:03
Verstappen would have been on pole today had this been a normal qualifying for him, or at least be VERY close. I kid you not. If you look at albon's sectors just before the red flag, he was almost 0.4s ahead of his previous best lap (1:20.0). Had he been able to at least match his Q2 sector 3 time he would land somewhere around 1.19.6. We know verstappen is 0.5s faster, and we can be 100% sure he is at least 0.3s faster. Pole position was not out of the question for him.

Q2 sectors - 1:20.0 laptime
https://i.imgur.com/x9heGdu.jpg

Q3 sectors - aborted lap
https://i.imgur.com/D2RxD8g.jpg
It was a confused qualification. TR and RB could not use the slip stream. Their own mistakes and unfortunate circumstances did not allow them to achieve more.

McMika98
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Juzh wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:03
Verstappen would have been on pole today had this been a normal qualifying for him, or at least be VERY close. I kid you not. If you look at albon's sectors just before the red flag, he was almost 0.4s ahead of his previous best lap (1:20.0). Had he been able to at least match his Q2 sector 3 time he would land somewhere around 1.19.6. We know verstappen is 0.5s faster, and we can be 100% sure he is at least 0.3s faster. Pole position was not out of the question for him.

Q2 sectors - 1:20.0 laptime
https://i.imgur.com/x9heGdu.jpg

Q3 sectors - aborted lap
https://i.imgur.com/D2RxD8g.jpg
Without a tow that would not happen as your Leclrec videos showed. Albon was doing his laps in free air without tow until Q3. So he could have easily got P5 on his first run. Max was at best 2 to 3 tenths faster than Alex not more.

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Marti_EF3 wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 18:21
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Honda explains Verstappen's power loss in Q1

Max Verstappen's loss of power in Italian Grand Prix qualifying was caused by excessive wheelspin triggering the activation of a Honda Formula 1 engine protection mode and an FIA system.
The Red Bull driver failed to set a time in the first part of qualifying when he reported "no power" exiting the first chicane.

He returned to the pitlane at the end of that lap and will start the race at the back of the grid, behind other drivers who have engine penalties this weekend.

Honda's F1 technical director Toyoharu Tanabe said that Verstappen got excessive wheelspin going over a kerb.

He said that triggered a spike in engine revs and caused both a "Honda protection mode and then an FIA system to cut in and reduce power".

Verstappen was second fastest in final practice at Monza, where he is using Honda's upgraded Spec 4 engine for the first time.

Alex Albon only qualified seventh, surprisingly behind both works Renaults, although was one of many drivers not to get a second flying lap in a farcical end to the session.

While Verstappen was left to bemoan his problem he does not anticipate a recurrence.

"I've done my long runs so I'm pretty confident," said Verstappen. "It has never happened before in the race."

Verstappen is also hopeful there will be no repeat of his complicated startline issues from the Belgian Grand Prix

"I had a few starts this morning and they felt good. I think there is room to improve, you never have a perfect start.

"It was pretty decent, but of course starting from the back it's not really highlighted."
Why do all problems happen to Max? Apparently that's why he is faster, he is walking along the edge.

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They need to adjust a little more permisive that sensors...

Datco
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Let hope tomorrow's race is better.
There is going to be one hell of a DRS train so it's going to be difficult.

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Juzh
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albon q2 vs q3 laps - 0.5s ahead coming into parabolica as predicted. Shame for the red flag, though bottas probably takes pole without it. He really had to lift for the yellows.

https://streamable.com/zzujl

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Juzh wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:03
Verstappen would have been on pole today had this been a normal qualifying for him, or at least be VERY close. I kid you not. If you look at albon's sectors just before the red flag, he was almost 0.4s ahead of his previous best lap (1:20.0). Had he been able to at least match his Q2 sector 3 time he would land somewhere around 1.19.6. We know verstappen is 0.5s faster, and we can be 100% sure he is at least 0.3s faster. Pole position was not out of the question for him.

Q2 sectors - 1:20.0 laptime
https://i.imgur.com/x9heGdu.jpg

Q3 sectors - aborted lap
https://i.imgur.com/D2RxD8g.jpg
Verstappen's pace on Friday was better than anyone else's, not even Bottas could keep up. I'm hoping he can pull another Germany.
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He said he had good start trainings this morning. Hope he can gain at start and first lap

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Max will be p5 within 2 laps . As for Gasly he have been impressive in a torro rosso faster than kyvat

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Bill wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 20:09
Max will be p5 within 2 laps . As for Gasly he have been impressive in a torro rosso faster than kyvat
Thats very optimistic if anything i he will start on mediums and be stuck behind the drs train. There isnt a big pace difference to jump that much. Based on F2, tyre wear will be high tomorrow so maybe chance at the second half.

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McMika98 wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 20:21
Bill wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 20:09
Max will be p5 within 2 laps . As for Gasly he have been impressive in a torro rosso faster than kyvat
Thats very optimistic if anything i he will start on mediums and be stuck behind the drs train. There isnt a big pace difference to jump that much. Based on F2, tyre wear will be high tomorrow so maybe chance at the second half.
Are you sure that the race won't start on wet surface?? That would change things a lot.