2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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Leclerc played it dirty twice, but whatever it takes to win as a Ferrari driver at Monza I guess. The most he was going to get at Monza was a yellow card, and that's exactly what happened. At least he won't be complaining when Max pulls similar moves on him in the future, amirite ?

Vettel and Stroll should've been black flagged by the way.
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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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V12-POWER wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:44
Too much people forget what happened in Canada and the outcry from drivers themselves. If they penalized leclerc like many people are wishing it would be the same situation.

So good job by the stewards anyways. Just cause your boy Hamilton didn’t win it’s not enough of a reason to go on a penalty spree
Leclerc won dirty. Period. If it was other way around you would be crying foul. What is the point of black+white flag if your are going to give another warning *after* it??? How many warnings are enough warnings?
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foxmulder_ms wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:58
V12-POWER wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:44
Too much people forget what happened in Canada and the outcry from drivers themselves. If they penalized leclerc like many people are wishing it would be the same situation.

So good job by the stewards anyways. Just cause your boy Hamilton didn’t win it’s not enough of a reason to go on a penalty spree
Your **boy** Leclerc won dirty. Period. If it was other way around you would be crying foul. What is the point of black+white flag if your are going to give another warning *after* it??? How many warnings are enough warnings?
Third one is a penalty isn't it?

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Morteza wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:56
Juzh wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:33
for once ferrari's straight line speed was simply too much to handle.

As a side note. verstappen couldnt pass perez for like 25 laps sitting in his drs. That new merc engine is no slouch.
Wasn't Perez running a brand new spec 2 Mercedes engine? Just curious
I believe they brought out a new spec 3 but I'm not sure. I think they all had spec 2 engines available but spec 3 they simply only had enough for one for everyone. They supposedly rushed one overnight from the factory to get installed this morning. They should have had spec 2 engines around and ready so I can only really imagine it was a spec 3 getting rushed over.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:59
foxmulder_ms wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:58
V12-POWER wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:44
Too much people forget what happened in Canada and the outcry from drivers themselves. If they penalized leclerc like many people are wishing it would be the same situation.

So good job by the stewards anyways. Just cause your boy Hamilton didn’t win it’s not enough of a reason to go on a penalty spree
Your **boy** Leclerc won dirty. Period. If it was other way around you would be crying foul. What is the point of black+white flag if your are going to give another warning *after* it??? How many warnings are enough warnings?
Third one is a penalty isn't it?
No once a black and white is shown then next is penalty!

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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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Morteza wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:56
Juzh wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:33
for once ferrari's straight line speed was simply too much to handle.

As a side note. verstappen couldnt pass perez for like 25 laps sitting in his drs. That new merc engine is no slouch.
Wasn't Perez running a brand new spec 2 Mercedes engine? Just curious
Well yes, he was. But so was verstappen.

edit. I know he (perez) was running a new engine, i presumed it's the latest spec? Spec 3? honestly, i forgot which one is it.

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Holy macaroni!
Ferrari without slipstream and on slower tyres is faster than Mercedes aided by slipstream and DRS. Did they build this SF-90 dragster only to secure a win in their home race?
PS: Monza finally confirmed - Honda is the weakest engine on the grid.

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auv wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:03
Holy macaroni!
Ferrari without slipstream and on slower tyres is faster than Mercedes aided by slipstream and DRS. Did they build this SF-90 dragster only to secure a win in their home race?
PS: Monza finally confirmed - Honda is the weakest engine on the grid.
I asked that question. Were they that desperate for a home win that they sacked off the WCC and WDC to achieve it?

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Juzh wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:01
Morteza wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:56
Juzh wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:33
for once ferrari's straight line speed was simply too much to handle.

As a side note. verstappen couldnt pass perez for like 25 laps sitting in his drs. That new merc engine is no slouch.
Wasn't Perez running a brand new spec 2 Mercedes engine? Just curious
Well yes, he was. But so was verstappen.

edit. I know he (perez) was running a new engine, i presumed it's the latest spec? Spec 3? honestly, i forgot which one is it.
Perez was on a new spec 2. He reverted back to an old spec 2 for this race which blew up and he got a new spec 2. That's why he didn't have to start from the pit lane (same spec).
If I'm not wrong though..
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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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foxmulder_ms wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:58
V12-POWER wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:44
Too much people forget what happened in Canada and the outcry from drivers themselves. If they penalized leclerc like many people are wishing it would be the same situation.

So good job by the stewards anyways. Just cause your boy Hamilton didn’t win it’s not enough of a reason to go on a penalty spree
Your **boy** Leclerc won dirty. Period. If it was other way around you would be crying foul. What is the point of black+white flag if your are going to give another warning *after* it??? How many warnings are enough warnings?
I have no preferred driver. Had Hamilton won the same way leclerc did, I would still say the same.

I mean, suck it up. How many times ham did the same and nobody said anything. He might do the same to leclerc in the next race, fair stuff.

Why is there a desire for hard competition and rivalry, if the one time we have a fight you’re gonna scream “Penalty!!!! Penalty!!!! This is not racing!!”

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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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Have to agree about Leclerc’s driving. Great for the sport but a bit dirty. Definitely got the rub of the green with the stewards too- but would you expect anything else in Monza?

I can’t help but feel he got an advantage cutting the second half of the chicane which kept him in the lead after going off.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:08
Juzh wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:01
Morteza wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 16:56

Wasn't Perez running a brand new spec 2 Mercedes engine? Just curious
Well yes, he was. But so was verstappen.

edit. I know he (perez) was running a new engine, i presumed it's the latest spec? Spec 3? honestly, i forgot which one is it.
Perez was on a new spec 2. He reverted back to an old spec 2 for this race which blew up and he got a new spec 2. That's why he didn't have to start from the pit lane (same spec).
If I'm not wrong though..
i think you may be right.

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Juzh wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:11
MtthsMlw wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:08
Juzh wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:01

Well yes, he was. But so was verstappen.

edit. I know he (perez) was running a new engine, i presumed it's the latest spec? Spec 3? honestly, i forgot which one is it.
Perez was on a new spec 2. He reverted back to an old spec 2 for this race which blew up and he got a new spec 2. That's why he didn't have to start from the pit lane (same spec).
If I'm not wrong though..
i think you may be right.
It is more complicated than I thought. Thank you both
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Do you think guys that Lewis did throw away his only chance in this race when he moved to the left of Charles too early instead of wait until arriving at the braking zone and then dive bomb into the inside?
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atanatizante wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 17:13
Do you think guys that Lewis did throw away his only chance in this race when he moved to the left of Charles too early instead of wait until arriving at the braking zone and then dive bomb into the inside?
he was too close to not move to one side, but there was no use coz Leclerc kept on moving 3 to 4 times! so no use