2019 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, 20-22 September

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Even with an 3rd DRS zone, it looks like it's gonna be tough for them to beat 2018 pole in Q3. This is quite surprising, considering this is not an engine power circuit.

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Hamilton some 7 tenths up on Verstappen, scary. His race pace is superior
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AMG.Tzan wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 12:33
I think this is going to be a Hamilton vs Verstapen race again...Ferrari seem to be close but i don't think they will be close enough!

Do we have any news on what happened to Leclerc? Gearbox?? He might be fast around here...he loves street circuits!
Only caught a portion of FP2- LeClerc and Hamilton looked to have pretty similar race pace on the softs fwiw.

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dtro wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:07
AMG.Tzan wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 12:33
I think this is going to be a Hamilton vs Verstapen race again...Ferrari seem to be close but i don't think they will be close enough!

Do we have any news on what happened to Leclerc? Gearbox?? He might be fast around here...he loves street circuits!
Only caught a portion of FP2- LeClerc and Hamilton looked to have pretty similar race pace on the softs fwiw.
No, Leclerc was way off on the softs. They had similar pace on the mediums but with only 2 laps we can't be sure.

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Bill_Kar wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:11
dtro wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:07
AMG.Tzan wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 12:33
I think this is going to be a Hamilton vs Verstapen race again...Ferrari seem to be close but i don't think they will be close enough!

Do we have any news on what happened to Leclerc? Gearbox?? He might be fast around here...he loves street circuits!
Only caught a portion of FP2- LeClerc and Hamilton looked to have pretty similar race pace on the softs fwiw.
No, Leclerc was way off on the softs. They had similar pace on the mediums but with only 2 laps we can't be sure.
My mistake, meant mediums- even after more than half a race season I still go with the old colors #-o

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Apparently most of the teams do their race sims with similar amounts of fuel in. And Horner said he thinks Lewis was pushing quite a bit on his race sim which could explain his pace.
Felipe Baby!

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Longrun Laptimes of Hamilton, Verstappen, Leclerc, Bottas, Vettel, Albon
Squares marks the period
Red Square=Soft
Yellow Square=Medium
Blue Square=Hard

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I think Horner might have been blowing a bit of smoke. Even if Hamilton was pushing his tyres (and that is partly the purpose of the race runs, surely), the pace he had over the rest suggests he could run slightly more gently and get several more laps at better pace than the others. As always, we'll know on Sunday.
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dtro wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:20
Bill_Kar wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:11
dtro wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:07


Only caught a portion of FP2- LeClerc and Hamilton looked to have pretty similar race pace on the softs fwiw.
No, Leclerc was way off on the softs. They had similar pace on the mediums but with only 2 laps we can't be sure.
My mistake, meant mediums- even after more than half a race season I still go with the old colors #-o
Haha don't worry. I'm still getting confused some times as well :mrgreen:

That being said, I know it was hard for new fans to learn, but I liked last year's colouring.
Maybe shades could be improved a bit, but the idea of knowing compounds right away just by looking was satisfying. Now I don't even know what compounds they use at each track.

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SiLo wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:36
Apparently most of the teams do their race sims with similar amounts of fuel in. And Horner said he thinks Lewis was pushing quite a bit on his race sim which could explain his pace.
I think he's just sour because it seems that RB is not all that quick after all (possibly).

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Just_a_fan wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:39
I think Horner might have been blowing a bit of smoke. Even if Hamilton was pushing his tyres (and that is partly the purpose of the race runs, surely), the pace he had over the rest suggests he could run slightly more gently and get several more laps at better pace than the others. As always, we'll know on Sunday.

Well that is Horner. I wont believe anything he is saying.

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Bill_Kar wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:53
SiLo wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:36
Apparently most of the teams do their race sims with similar amounts of fuel in. And Horner said he thinks Lewis was pushing quite a bit on his race sim which could explain his pace.
I think he's just sour because it seems that RB is not all that quick after all (possibly).
no RB would never lose 0.7 to 1.0s on mercedes on a long run.

my guess is Hamilton was checking how long the tyres will hold if you push hard on the Softs, this could come into play if Mercedes thinking of doing Q2 on Mediums and do the last laps to push should Verstappen or a Ferrari be within they're pit window, so they can close the gap and overtake the driver ahead at that moment

this shows the Bottas long run aswell .... conservative on the Mediums (avg. low 1.47.xxx) and Bottas hs run on the Soft

Verstappens longruns were conservative all the way, on the softs aswell on the hard tyre..... which could suggest start on the soft, changing to hard tyres

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Capharol wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 17:02
Bill_Kar wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:53
SiLo wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 16:36
Apparently most of the teams do their race sims with similar amounts of fuel in. And Horner said he thinks Lewis was pushing quite a bit on his race sim which could explain his pace.
I think he's just sour because it seems that RB is not all that quick after all (possibly).
no RB would never lose 0.7 to 1.0s on mercedes on a long run.

my guess is Hamilton was checking how long the tyres will hold if you push hard on the Softs, this could come into play if Mercedes thinking of doing Q2 on Mediums and do the last laps to push should Verstappen or a Ferrari be within they're pit window, so they can close the gap and overtake the driver ahead at that moment

this shows the Bottas long run aswell .... conservative on the Mediums (avg. low 1.47.xxx) and Bottas hs run on the Soft

Verstappens longruns were conservative all the way, on the softs aswell on the hard tyre..... which could suggest start on the soft, changing to hard tyres
never?? I think it happens quite often :D

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The idea of not pushing (in terms of driving, not the engine settings) seems silly to me.

If you are not pushing in practice 2 then you do not know how the tyres will last/perform in the race. You also do not know how the setup will perform in the race.

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djones wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 17:11
The idea of not pushing (in terms of driving, not the engine settings) seems silly to me.

If you are not pushing in practice 2 then you do not know how the tyres will last/perform in the race. You also do not know how the setup will perform in the race.
that depends on the goal set from the team... do they want to really do a 1 stopper or maybe focussing on a possible 2 stopper.
at first a 2 stopper looks slow but we've seen in Hungary what a 2nd stop can do (although its harder here to overtake)
but look at the laptimes of Bottas and Hamilton and ask yourself.... why is Bottas so far of the pace compared to Hamilton, despite they having the same car ..... my guess because they went through 2 scenarios