2019 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, 20-22 September

[Juzh]

some laps from yesterday
leclerc p1
https://streamable.com/pcx1y


hamilton p2
https://streamable.com/4k6gd


verstappen p4
https://streamable.com/e5859


sainz p7
https://streamable.com/blrp4

[NathanOlder]

Well done Vettel! Helped by the strategy for sure, but he was in the position that allowed him that.

In a position that allowed it. are you saying he was doing well to hang on in 3rd? While Charles was being told to drive to a delta about 13 seconds a lap off qualy pace.

[NathanOlder]

return of the Dark Prince!

And to all of you that believe Ferrari intentionally screwed Leclerc, well, you don't have a clue about tactics...

What Ferrari should have done is pit vettel first, then have charles drive a slow lap to guarantee Vettel passing Hamilton and Leclerc, then later in the race switch Vettel and Leclerc back. Makes a 1-2 and the deserving driver wins the race.

[Restomaniac]

So yeah, Leclerc wasn't told that Vettel pitted.

Why should he have been? So he could go "faster" on old tyres to prevent an undercut?

Well yes that’s what you would do unless you’re showing bias to just 1 driver. Ferrari didn’t feel the need though. LeClerc wasn’t screwed or anything though

[Restomaniac]

Those bringing up Mercedes need to remember that before the pit stops it was.

Ham-2
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Afterwards it was

Ham-4
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If that’s team orders then it’s the worst team orders in History.

[Phil]

Well done Vettel! Helped by the strategy for sure, but he was in the position that allowed him that.

In a position that allowed it. are you saying he was doing well to hang on in 3rd? While Charles was being told to drive to a delta about 13 seconds a lap off qualy pace.

He was in that position precisely because Leclerc dictated the pace of everyone, thus also adding to the risk that this could happen.

A strategy that was necessary to ensure the best possible result for Ferrari, which they achieved.

[LM10]

Those bringing up Mercedes need to remember that before the pit stops it was.

Ham-2
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Afterwards it was

Ham-4
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If that’s team orders then it’s the worst team orders in History.

After the pit stop it would easily have been Bottas 4th and Ham 5th, if Bottas would have not gotten the order to drive 1:48.8 (3 seconds slower than his pace at that time).

I don’t know what Mercedes was thinking when they waited for too long to pit Hamilton, but they used team orders to minimize the damage done to their lead driver.

[Big Tea]

Those bringing up Mercedes need to remember that before the pit stops it was.

Ham-2
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Afterwards it was

Ham-4
Bot-5

If that’s team orders then it’s the worst team orders in History.

After the pit stop it would easily have been Bottas 4th and Ham 5th, if Bottas would have not gotten the order to drive 1:48.8 (3 seconds slower than his pace at that time).

I don’t know what Mercedes was thinking when they waited for too long to pit Hamilton, but they used team orders to minimize the damage done to their lead driver.

6th, as Bottas not only slowed but held back at least one car

[NathanOlder]

Well done Vettel! Helped by the strategy for sure, but he was in the position that allowed him that.

In a position that allowed it. are you saying he was doing well to hang on in 3rd? While Charles was being told to drive to a delta about 13 seconds a lap off qualy pace.

He was in that position precisely because Leclerc dictated the pace of everyone, thus also adding to the risk that this could happen.

A strategy that was necessary to ensure the best possible result for Ferrari, which they achieved.

And it was a pace and strategy agreed by the team over night, they would have set the delta for Charles to drive to.

[maxxer]

its a horrible boring race on the calender i cant even force myself to watch such crap.
Mercedes tried i guess with tactics but no chance. Anything else ends up with a safety car.
Just shamefull to keep this on the calender while there are wonderfull tracks like istanbul or malaysia being ignored.
Yes next year we get new tracks like vietnam and the old crap track in holland they get a contract for a while and end up being dropped after 3 years.

[214270]

Those bringing up Mercedes need to remember that before the pit stops it was.

Ham-2
Bot-5

Afterwards it was

Ham-4
Bot-5

If that’s team orders then it’s the worst team orders in History.

After the pit stop it would easily have been Bottas 4th and Ham 5th, if Bottas would have not gotten the order to drive 1:48.8 (3 seconds slower than his pace at that time).

I don’t know what Mercedes was thinking when they waited for too long to pit Hamilton, but they used team orders to minimize the damage done to their lead driver.

They used team orders as you call it to make sure HAM wasn’t impeded by BOT as he would have the tyre advantage.

The decision isn’t something to query when they end up 4th and 5th. There’s nothing to garner; there are much more interesting topics to dissect.

[LM10]

Those bringing up Mercedes need to remember that before the pit stops it was.

Ham-2
Bot-5

Afterwards it was

Ham-4
Bot-5

If that’s team orders then it’s the worst team orders in History.

After the pit stop it would easily have been Bottas 4th and Ham 5th, if Bottas would have not gotten the order to drive 1:48.8 (3 seconds slower than his pace at that time).

I don’t know what Mercedes was thinking when they waited for too long to pit Hamilton, but they used team orders to minimize the damage done to their lead driver.

6th, as Bottas not only slowed but held back at least one car

You’re right. Albon was right behind him, if I remember correctly.

[Vasconia]

I can understand Leclerc's frustration and anger but Vettel did such an amazing lap after the pitstop which allowed him to undercut both Lewis and Charles, kudos for him as I think this exceeded what the team itself was expecting. Then he was much faster than Charles overtaking the slower cars, and finally he had everything under control after several safety cars. Anyway, almost no one in the front overtook other cars after the safety cars so I guess it wasn't that difficult.

Congratulations to Sebastian and Ferrari fur such an awesome result. Finally an aero package after the summer break which works for the team!

[NathanOlder]

its a horrible boring race on the calender i cant even force myself to watch such crap.
Mercedes tried i guess with tactics but no chance. Anything else ends up with a safety car.
Just shamefull to keep this on the calender while there are wonderfull tracks like istanbul or malaysia being ignored.
Yes next year we get new tracks like vietnam and the old crap track in holland they get a contract for a while and end up being dropped after 3 years.

totally agree mate.

Imola, Nurburgring, Magny Cours & Estoril

[LM10]

Those bringing up Mercedes need to remember that before the pit stops it was.

Ham-2
Bot-5

Afterwards it was

Ham-4
Bot-5

If that’s team orders then it’s the worst team orders in History.

After the pit stop it would easily have been Bottas 4th and Ham 5th, if Bottas would have not gotten the order to drive 1:48.8 (3 seconds slower than his pace at that time).

I don’t know what Mercedes was thinking when they waited for too long to pit Hamilton, but they used team orders to minimize the damage done to their lead driver.

They used team orders as you call it to make sure HAM wasn’t impeded by BOT as he would have the tyre advantage.

The decision isn’t something to query when they end up 4th and 5th. There’s nothing to garner; there are much more interesting topics to dissect.

Tyre advantage? That’s Singapore. A 5 laps fresher tyre won’t give you any advantage against other top teams. Especially, if all are on Hards.

Mercedes just wanted Hamilton not to return on track in 6th position. It’s crystal clear.