Apparently RB and Merc screwed up their sim setups and then their car setups with suspension, they went too hard. It seemed really noticeable in qualifying.
Apparently RB and Merc screwed up their sim setups and then their car setups with suspension, they went too hard. It seemed really noticeable in qualifying.
Yeah, and i belive that the setup they used was more for qualifying. Getting the track position and control the race, was the strategy. I really doubt that they solved the problems they had just with this upgrade.SiLo wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 11:48Apparently RB and Merc screwed up their sim setups and then their car setups with suspension, they went too hard. It seemed really noticeable in qualifying.
It's not "just" an upgrade. In addition, it was a significant number of changessantos wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 13:28Yeah, and i belive that the setup they used was more for qualifying. Getting the track position and control the race, was the strategy. I really doubt that they solved the problems they had just with this upgrade.
Or to the contrary, F1 teams are usually so occupied with updates and upgrades, they fail to set their car up optimally -- even though optimal suspension setups are critical in most other series?LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 16:00In today's F1, by pure understanding of setting the car up, you can already gain a big amount of time. Remember Mercedes at Singapore last year. There were no upgrades on the car and their explanation of how they made a performance jump was that they simply had an aha-experience and knew how to setup the car to be competitive at such twisty tracks and in slow speed corners.
Mercedes introduced their new brake drums and special wheels last year in Singapore (the wheels that Ferrari later protested, but were deemed legal). It helped them manage tire temperatures, which is the key to turning a fast lap in Singapore.LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 16:00There were no upgrades on the car and their explanation of how they made a performance jump was that they simply had an aha-experience and knew how to setup the car to be competitive at such twisty tracks and in slow speed corners. The result was that Mercedes, pretty unexpectedly, was the fastest car there and until this day they're still on the top of slow speed corner performance.
The rims were already introduced in Belgium. Don't know about the brake drums, though.zibby43 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:11Mercedes introduced their new brake drums and special wheels last year in Singapore (the wheels that Ferrari later protested, but were deemed legal). It helped them manage tire temperatures, which is the key to turning a fast lap in Singapore.LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 16:00There were no upgrades on the car and their explanation of how they made a performance jump was that they simply had an aha-experience and knew how to setup the car to be competitive at such twisty tracks and in slow speed corners. The result was that Mercedes, pretty unexpectedly, was the fastest car there and until this day they're still on the top of slow speed corner performance.
https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/revea ... e/3179717/
In singapore 2018 Mercs introduced a new rear suspension system (multilink like) that was the base for the rear end of the 2019 too, i think.LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:20The rims were already introduced in Belgium. Don't know about the brake drums, though.zibby43 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:11Mercedes introduced their new brake drums and special wheels last year in Singapore (the wheels that Ferrari later protested, but were deemed legal). It helped them manage tire temperatures, which is the key to turning a fast lap in Singapore.LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 16:00There were no upgrades on the car and their explanation of how they made a performance jump was that they simply had an aha-experience and knew how to setup the car to be competitive at such twisty tracks and in slow speed corners. The result was that Mercedes, pretty unexpectedly, was the fastest car there and until this day they're still on the top of slow speed corner performance.
https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/revea ... e/3179717/
You are right about the tire temperatures, but I don't think that their step forward regarding slow-medium speed corners were solely oming from these rims. It made them be significantly faster on race pace. Their tire management during race got better in a massive way.
I'm pretty sure that the upgrades will be used at all other GP's as well since they worked.Polite wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:48In singapore 2018 Mercs introduced a new rear suspension system (multilink like) that was the base for the rear end of the 2019 too, i think.LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:20The rims were already introduced in Belgium. Don't know about the brake drums, though.zibby43 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:11
Mercedes introduced their new brake drums and special wheels last year in Singapore (the wheels that Ferrari later protested, but were deemed legal). It helped them manage tire temperatures, which is the key to turning a fast lap in Singapore.
https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/revea ... e/3179717/
You are right about the tire temperatures, but I don't think that their step forward regarding slow-medium speed corners were solely oming from these rims. It made them be significantly faster on race pace. Their tire management during race got better in a massive way.
For Ferrari 2019 Singapore upgrades: will they use em on every next gp or not? In singapore the sf90 was draggy infact Vettel didnt overtake Hamilton at lap 1..
U are right and i think that too. But even if is not so simple to overtake in the first drs strait, i was sure that Vettel could have overtake Ham: maybe the fact that strait comes after a fast/mid corner impacted on the acceleration advantage of Ferrari out of corners.. or maybe this upgrade is draggy!..LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 23:49I'm pretty sure that the upgrades will be used at all other GP's as well since they worked.Polite wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:48In singapore 2018 Mercs introduced a new rear suspension system (multilink like) that was the base for the rear end of the 2019 too, i think.LM10 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 20:20
The rims were already introduced in Belgium. Don't know about the brake drums, though.
You are right about the tire temperatures, but I don't think that their step forward regarding slow-medium speed corners were solely oming from these rims. It made them be significantly faster on race pace. Their tire management during race got better in a massive way.
For Ferrari 2019 Singapore upgrades: will they use em on every next gp or not? In singapore the sf90 was draggy infact Vettel didnt overtake Hamilton at lap 1..
Ferrari was again the fastest car on the straights in Singapore, if you check the maximum speeds. Overtaking a Mercedes on euqally fresh tyres and highest engine mode on the short straights in lap 1 in Singapore isn't one of the easiest things in the world.