2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[martinbeiker]

Makes no sense.
They'll need another "0-year" in order to accommodate new engine&aux ...

2021 has entirely new regs.

Plus that's not usually the case, see Toro Rosso in the hybrid era and Red Bull this year.

[godlameroso]

Lots of mention about a possible wet qualifying and long run focus makes me think the team might entirely favour a race setup if they think dry one-lap pace would be irrelevant.

Seidl:

There is rain around tomorrow and we’ll have to take our opportunities as they present themselves, but the information gathered today will be useful for what should be a dry race.”

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/2019/rus ... -practice/

Rain is forecast for the morning but not around quali time. At worst we'll have a worthless P3 session.

[SmallSoldier]

Lots of mention about a possible wet qualifying and long run focus makes me think the team might entirely favour a race setup if they think dry one-lap pace would be irrelevant.

Seidl:

There is rain around tomorrow and we’ll have to take our opportunities as they present themselves, but the information gathered today will be useful for what should be a dry race.”

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/2019/rus ... -practice/

The question is: Is having a little less downforce actually beneficial for a race with such long straights? Additional downforce should help with tires, but having less of it should help in overtaking/defending.

I’m sure the team has every necessary number to make that call... Wonder what the considerations are.


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[SmallSoldier]

Makes no sense.
They'll need another "0-year" in order to accommodate new engine&aux ...

A lot of people blow out of proportion adjusting to a new PU... In 2018 Mclaren’s problems had nothing to do with PU integration... STR did quiet well in their first year with Honda.

People usually use that to mask other deficiencies in the cars (PU, Chassis or both)... With new regulations and enough time, there is no reason why they should struggle to integrate the Mercedes PU for 2021.


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[Macklaren]

So are we seeing the return of Mclaren Mercedes?

Joe Saward reporting this as well. Makes it virtually certain in my book. Joe is very credible

[Capharol]

Lots of mention about a possible wet qualifying and long run focus makes me think the team might entirely favour a race setup if they think dry one-lap pace would be irrelevant.

Seidl:

There is rain around tomorrow and we’ll have to take our opportunities as they present themselves, but the information gathered today will be useful for what should be a dry race.”

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/2019/rus ... -practice/

Rain is forecast for the morning but not around quali time. At worst we'll have a worthless P3 session.

prediction saturday afternoon

[charliesmithhd]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 4jNvc.html

[AfzMoha]

Forth fastest in terms of race pace and tied with Racing Point, 0.3 seconds a lap faster than Renault which is decent. If we can sort out our one lap pace we should be okay.

[godlameroso]

Lots of mention about a possible wet qualifying and long run focus makes me think the team might entirely favour a race setup if they think dry one-lap pace would be irrelevant.

Seidl:



https://www.mclaren.com/racing/2019/rus ... -practice/

Rain is forecast for the morning but not around quali time. At worst we'll have a worthless P3 session.

prediction saturday afternoon
https://i.imgur.com/lz7mJxA.jpg

That's not what my spider sense tells me, but it's sometimes wrong. The possibility of rain has to be compared to the overall amount predicted for the day. In this case 9.3mm of rainfall are predicted for the day this means that even if the probability of rain is high the amount that falls will be light. It may not even be wet enough to warrant inters, or even land on the circuit for that matter. The climate in that region of the world promotes cool light rain sort of like you see in the Peruvian coast or San Francisco during winter. Or Shanghai during early spring.

[Jackles-UK]

BBC (Andrew Benson) are now over the McLaren-Mercedes reunion as well.

Interesting that he states the reasons are that

a) Mercedes is more a competitive unit (which is pretty undeniable really) but also,

b) that a deal with Mercedes is actually cheaper than with Renault.

If the second point is true then it’s an excellent deal to get done. I must assume that this must be due to economies of scale with all the engine R&D being shared by four teams rather than two?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49859259

[Capharol]

Rain is forecast for the morning but not around quali time. At worst we'll have a worthless P3 session.

prediction saturday afternoon
https://i.imgur.com/lz7mJxA.jpg

That's not what my spider sense tells me, but it's sometimes wrong. The possibility of rain has to be compared to the overall amount predicted for the day. In this case 9.3mm of rainfall are predicted for the day this means that even if the probability of rain is high the amount that falls will be light. It may not even be wet enough to warrant inters, or even land on the circuit for that matter. The climate in that region of the world promotes cool light rain sort of like you see in the Peruvian coast or San Francisco during winter. Or Shanghai during early spring.

sure, and yes it can be completly different, and we can only use the tools (weatherforecast) the internet gives us.... we "normal" ppl haven't got the best tools like the teams has.
but bare in mind, even the teams are talking about a wet quali ....

[mwillems]

Forth fastest in terms of race pace and tied with Racing Point, 0.3 seconds a lap faster than Renault which is decent. If we can sort out our one lap pace we should be okay.

Red Bull didn't post a representative race lap, apparently, and so are not included. Likely 5th fastest at that point.

But who knows what we will pull out of the bag tomorrow.

[mwillems]

BBC (Andrew Benson) are now over the McLaren-Mercedes reunion as well.

Interesting that he states the reasons are that

a) Mercedes is more a competitive unit (which is pretty undeniable really) but also,

b) that a deal with Mercedes is actually cheaper than with Renault.

If the second point is true then it’s an excellent deal to get done. I must assume that this must be due to economies of scale with all the engine R&D being shared by four teams rather than two?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49859259

They have no need to offer them engines cheaper than the FIA Mandated maximum price so I wonder what that motive is, if it is true.

[Big Tea]

BBC (Andrew Benson) are now over the McLaren-Mercedes reunion as well.

Interesting that he states the reasons are that

a) Mercedes is more a competitive unit (which is pretty undeniable really) but also,

b) that a deal with Mercedes is actually cheaper than with Renault.

If the second point is true then it’s an excellent deal to get done. I must assume that this must be due to economies of scale with all the engine R&D being shared by four teams rather than two?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49859259

They have no need to offer them engines cheaper than the FIA Mandated maximum price so I wonder what that motive is, if it is true.

Cheaper and more realistic than in house test beds?

[mwillems]

BBC (Andrew Benson) are now over the McLaren-Mercedes reunion as well.

Interesting that he states the reasons are that

a) Mercedes is more a competitive unit (which is pretty undeniable really) but also,

b) that a deal with Mercedes is actually cheaper than with Renault.

If the second point is true then it’s an excellent deal to get done. I must assume that this must be due to economies of scale with all the engine R&D being shared by four teams rather than two?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49859259

They have no need to offer them engines cheaper than the FIA Mandated maximum price so I wonder what that motive is, if it is true.

Cheaper and more realistic than in house test beds?

Well they aren't short of teams getting test data for them, and the Merc engine sells itself in terms of power and reliability.