2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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McL-H wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 13:46
Look how easy Verstappen passes us on the straights. Honda definitely a better engine than Renault atm.
The straight line speed depends on a number of factors. Of course, the engine plays a big part. But, the corner exit speed, traction out of the corner and the drag levels (efficient downforce) play a huge role as well. This is the reason top teams breeze past the midfielders on straights despite having the same or even worse engine.

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Safety cars will always have a negative effect on the cars towards the front. I'd rather be in the position of having to deal with them rather than rely on them. Dealt with it pretty well, P6 and P8 is a decent result.

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Every race some Point gain to Renault is enough. We shouldn't be arrogant. A Little bad luck but Renault got it much worse.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 14:00
What do you mean. Norris did a 2.2 Sec Pit stop.

Honda has made massive gains but they are still the slowest engine. Not by much but they are still.

Let's be serious. It's the Red Bull who is a generally faster car and Verstappen has lots of talent to the point where I can consider him the new Senna.
Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Besides, there's one engine I'd prefer, on demonstrated reliability alone (hint, it's not Renault). And I don't see the pace advantage you claim Renault has either...

After all McLaren have done this year with mighty gains made, the obvious weak link is the engine spilling it's guts at every other race. That has stolen valuable points at several GP's this season.

Strong race today, a little unlucky at times but they are performing well! The next two years will be fascinating to watch!

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Great Race, we are slowly getting our act in place after the two ''bad'' races in SPA & Monza. We were a bit unlucky with the multiple SC's today but at the end we extended our lead towards Renault in the constructors, and I think SAI & LANDO are just the perfect fit to lead Mclaren into next season as well.
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:02
I suppose you are right. We were lucky with all that bad luck in the end. Fantastic defence from Norris and a solid drive from Sainz. We increase our gap to our followers and we continue to the next race. BTW Vettel is really such a spoiled child. That was dirty from him today.
Vettel? Imo, he did nothing wrong.

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Japan should also be good for McLaren.

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Seanxprt wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:31
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:02
I suppose you are right. We were lucky with all that bad luck in the end. Fantastic defence from Norris and a solid drive from Sainz. We increase our gap to our followers and we continue to the next race. BTW Vettel is really such a spoiled child. That was dirty from him today.
Vettel? Imo, he did nothing wrong.
Disobeyed team orders.

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Anyone notice how Norris increased the gap enough to Mag to take advantage of the 5 sec penalty but prevented Hulk from taking advantage of it ? NICE!

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martinbeiker wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:49
Seanxprt wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:31
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:02
I suppose you are right. We were lucky with all that bad luck in the end. Fantastic defence from Norris and a solid drive from Sainz. We increase our gap to our followers and we continue to the next race. BTW Vettel is really such a spoiled child. That was dirty from him today.
Vettel? Imo, he did nothing wrong.
Disobeyed team orders.
I'm no Vettel fan, i think he's overrated. I don't think he did anything wrong either. The fastest way around the track and still give the possition back is via the undercut. Not sure why they didn't skip all the drama and do it that anyways.

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GhostF1 wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:25
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 14:00
What do you mean. Norris did a 2.2 Sec Pit stop.

Honda has made massive gains but they are still the slowest engine. Not by much but they are still.

Let's be serious. It's the Red Bull who is a generally faster car and Verstappen has lots of talent to the point where I can consider him the new Senna.
Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Besides, there's one engine I'd prefer, on demonstrated reliability alone (hint, it's not Renault). And I don't see the pace advantage you claim Renault has either...

After all McLaren have done this year with mighty gains made, the obvious weak link is the engine spilling it's guts at every other race. That has stolen valuable points at several GP's this season.

Strong race today, a little unlucky at times but they are performing well! The next two years will be fascinating to watch!
Aren't STR on to thier 7th PU ? That's like 1 PU every 2 races and more than double the alotted PUs. Not exactly the picture of reliability.

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diffuser wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 16:11
GhostF1 wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:25
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 14:00
What do you mean. Norris did a 2.2 Sec Pit stop.

Honda has made massive gains but they are still the slowest engine. Not by much but they are still.

Let's be serious. It's the Red Bull who is a generally faster car and Verstappen has lots of talent to the point where I can consider him the new Senna.
Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Besides, there's one engine I'd prefer, on demonstrated reliability alone (hint, it's not Renault). And I don't see the pace advantage you claim Renault has either...

After all McLaren have done this year with mighty gains made, the obvious weak link is the engine spilling it's guts at every other race. That has stolen valuable points at several GP's this season.

Strong race today, a little unlucky at times but they are performing well! The next two years will be fascinating to watch!
Aren't STR on to thier 7th PU ? That's like 1 PU every 2 races and more than double the alotted PUs. Not exactly the picture of reliability.
This isn't the topic for it and it has been discussed several times the changes have been for accelerated development, all their engines they still have available for use. So could you tell me which races were changes due to actual PU failures?

If you want to talk about details. It's actually a truth to say Honda have been the most reliable PU of 2019, everyone else has had several spectacular blow ups.. The jump has been impressive.

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diffuser wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:57
Anyone notice how Norris increased the gap enough to Mag to take advantage of the 5 sec penalty but prevented Hulk from taking advantage of it ? NICE!
I thought that too, but it looked like Hulk's tyres just dropped off, Stroll nearly got him on the last lap

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Marc.W wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 16:27
diffuser wrote:
29 Sep 2019, 15:57
Anyone notice how Norris increased the gap enough to Mag to take advantage of the 5 sec penalty but prevented Hulk from taking advantage of it ? NICE!
I thought that too, but it looked like Hulk's tyres just dropped off, Stroll nearly got him on the last lap
I think Stroll caught him and the time he spent fighting allowed Lando to pull a gap in the last couple of laps, the time he spent behind Lando probably didn’t help his tyres mind you.

Into triple figures in the constructors now (101 points), their highest tally since 2014. This year has already way exceeded my expectations so anything from here until the end of the year will be a bonus. Saying that, I reckon most of the final races should favour the car so I keep my fingers crossed for a few more points.

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A good result for the team after a very tough start to the season... But, there is still work to do to improve the pace in the midfield... Perez matched the team’s pace for most of the race, as well as Renault after things settled.

Increasing the gap to Renault for 4th again was the goal before the race and it was achieved.

Great drive by Sainz!


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