dans79 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 17:10
Just_a_fan wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 16:25
ENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 15:33
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You just don't get it do you? With a reversed grid, it wouldn't just be LEC behind BOT and HAM, BOT and HAM would also be behind slower cars and would be forced to overtake them while defending. IT WOULD NOT BE THE SAME.
Oh, I get it. It's contrived nonsense, that's what it is.
The entire reverse grid concept is moronic, I don't care who came up with it, or who thinks its a good idea.
Lets look at it with Susuka as an example. If we replaced q3 with a reverse grid sprint race the starting line up would be as follows.
- Ric
- Nor
- Alb
- Sai
- Gas
- Vet
- Ver
- Lec
- Bot
- Ham
Their is no way in hel* anyone that still has a mathematical shot at the WDC starts the actual race in p1. I'd be shocked if any of the contenders made it above P3.
A lot of naive people are saying the 2021 rules will make it so that it won't be hard to follow other cars and thus overtaking will be easier. However we have heard all this before, like back in 2010/11 when the line was DRS will make overtaking easier. It did for a year or two, but we are right back to where we where before.
The most comical thing to me is that so many people think the 2021 rules will fix everything because the FIA and FOM/Liberty say it will. The simple fact is the teams have hundreds of engineers, and will be actively working to undo/surpass anything the fia or Liberty can come up with. it's a simple numbers game the FIA is out numbed by several orders of magnitude.
Taking the substance of your post. I believe the plan is invert the whole grid. So Kubica and Russell at the front Bottas and Hamilton at the back.
The intention is NOT to have the fastest get to the front in the qualifying race. The objective is to have a two part RACE, a short part on the Saturday a longer part on the Sunday. That’s in contrast to the current form of the sport which is a two part TIME TRIAL.
In an earlier post you asked how many laps someone at the back would have to get the passes done. It would typically be 4 per overtake for the current championship leader. That’s about what Albon did last weekend.
The technical effort being put into the 2021 rules objectives is considerably more than has ever been made before. Have a look at the 2021 aero thread to catch up on this. It’s possible, as you say, that they won’t get things right but I believe Ross Brawn has rather more insight than any of us and will give it a better chance than previous changes.
The time trial nature of the event was amply illustrated by Hamilton at the end of the race in Sochi, he was cruising, chatting to Bono, “do I need to pick up my pace”. Then just to show how much he was cruising he popped in the fastest lap of the race.
We’re lucky at the moment because the fastest car in the short time trial is not quite the fastest in the long form and we get some racing as a by product.
If we can discuss this civilly we might learn something from each other.
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