2019 United States Grand Prix - Austin, 1-3 November

[MtthsMlw]

Ferrari going for an older spec engine, no penalty expected.
Oil leak on his spec 3 engine, so still a possibility to use it again.

[Sieper]

I agree, they run heavy. Norris in 3. The way the car handled. Mercedes looked fastest yesterday and f.e. Max also said they needed to find more time. Come qualy I expect merc front row Lock out.

[F1NAC]

Here we go again

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[zibby43]

Hamilton is struggling in the Mercedes, his onboards are terrible. Another frustrating case of going backwards come quali day.

It's abundantly clear they're running heavy.

oh yeah its so clear, when they are behind Mercs suddenly driving with a heavier car

When you observe HAM setting personal bests on like his 5th attempt, that’s usually a not-so-subtle clue that the car is getting lighter (as opposed to the tires being magical).

Carry on.

[Restomaniac]

It's abundantly clear they're running heavy.

oh yeah its so clear, when they are behind Mercs suddenly driving with a heavier car

When you observe HAM setting personal bests on like his 5th attempt, that’s usually a not-so-subtle clue that the car is getting lighter (as opposed to the tires being magical).

Carry on.

Indeed. Obviously some also think Norris’ 3rd place is genuine too.

[izzy]

Here we go again

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oooh, so the theory they're testing is whether Ferrari are somehow syncing fuel delivery with the FIA measurement sampling frequency, to deliver some extra in between samples. Now FIA have said that's illegal, so now the others are watching to see if the Ferrari power is reduced tomorrow. If not, they can cross that conspiracy theory off their list and move on to the next one. Lovely!!

[Capharol]

they all were heavier otherwise the gap would be bigger to Norris, we all know what the McLaren is worth

[Sieper]

Here we go again

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oooh, so the theory they're testing is whether Ferrari are somehow syncing fuel delivery with the FIA measurement sampling frequency, to deliver some extra in between samples. Now FIA have said that's illegal, so now the others are watching to see if the Ferrari power is reduced tomorrow. If not, they can cross that conspiracy theory off their list and move on to the next one. Lovely!!

How so, FIA can’t detect that so If that is it it is game on.

[Sieper]

It's abundantly clear they're running heavy.

oh yeah its so clear, when they are behind Mercs suddenly driving with a heavier car

When you observe HAM setting personal bests on like his 5th attempt, that’s usually a not-so-subtle clue that the car is getting lighter (as opposed to the tires being magical).

Carry on.

Yes I agree, as per my previous post. Genuine question, why? Is there an advantage? Aren’t you going to notice set-up issues earlier when you go as quick as possible.

[Capharol]

Here we go again

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fairly clever tho

"Mercedes, Honda and Renault will be in the qualifying and in the starting lap tomorrow at the Grand Prix now exactly look at whether Ferrari continues to make up for so much time on the straights on them. If so, they know they were wrong. If the game is played a few more times, Ferrari's opponents learn after the exclusion process at least what Ferrari does not."

just picking out the cherries if the ferrari's don't have that advantage anymore, they found the thing Ferrari had the benefit off, if Ferrari is still fast(er) on the straights by a mile just put in an other request "is this legal?"

[Restomaniac]

they all were heavier otherwise the gap would be bigger to Norris, we all know what the McLaren is worth

Which means that the times we have just seen mean 4/5ths of naff all.

[LM10]

Here we go again

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Well, so far it was just a question about fuel flow measurement to get a clarification. FIA told that it’s not legal to let more fuel flow in the intervals it is not measured. Now they know it’s illegal and if Ferrari still is that fast on the straights today, they will know that Ferrari’s secret can’t be tricking the fuel flow limit.

[zibby43]

oh yeah its so clear, when they are behind Mercs suddenly driving with a heavier car

When you observe HAM setting personal bests on like his 5th attempt, that’s usually a not-so-subtle clue that the car is getting lighter (as opposed to the tires being magical).

Carry on.

Indeed. Obviously some also think Norris’ 3rd place is genuine too.

We’re definitely on the same page.

[izzy]

oooh, so the theory they're testing is whether Ferrari are somehow syncing fuel delivery with the FIA measurement sampling frequency, to deliver some extra in between samples. Now FIA have said that's illegal, so now the others are watching to see if the Ferrari power is reduced tomorrow. If not, they can cross that conspiracy theory off their list and move on to the next one. Lovely!!

How so, FIA can’t detect that so If that is it it is game on.

yes the assumption is that Ferrari won't risk flatly breaking a rule, isn't it. But perhaps FIA could see it in the code? They have access to all the code don't they and the standard ECU is part of that

[zibby43]

oh yeah its so clear, when they are behind Mercs suddenly driving with a heavier car

When you observe HAM setting personal bests on like his 5th attempt, that’s usually a not-so-subtle clue that the car is getting lighter (as opposed to the tires being magical).

Carry on.

Yes I agree, as per my previous post. Genuine question, why? Is there an advantage? Aren’t you going to notice set-up issues earlier when you go as quick as possible.

The teams seem to play these games sometimes. Whether there’s an advantage in it, and what it is (beyond shock and awe once true pace is revealed) . . . who knows.

It’s really Q2 where the BS stops. I remember countless Q2 sessions over the past few years where Mattia or Toto simply shake their heads in the realization that they won’t have enough in Q3.