2019 United States Grand Prix - Austin, 1-3 November

[Sieper]

It is never enough for you guys.

What do you think about phenomenally good. What higher accolade is needed? that is What Max said about Lewis right after the race and he has on multiple occasions called Lewis one of the greats (which he is).

A phenomenon is someone so good that it is self explanatory, it never happens, everybody immediately recognizes the skill off.

[Wouter]

Max congratulated Lewis twice yesterday.

On the sixth world championship of Hamilton, Max says: “It is very impressive. He performs phenomenal and has a great team supporting him. Hopefully we can fight with them next year.”

[NathanOlder]

Awaiting comments from Sir Jackey Stewart and Jaques Villeneuve.

Stewart was on UK radio this morning and basically kept trying to say that it's only because Hamilton's in the best team/car etc. It was cringe-inducing listening to the sad old man struggling to accept that Hamilton's achievement. It's a shame to hear as Stewart is one of the great names in the sport.

What radio station was he on ?

[izzy]

Awaiting comments from Sir Jackey Stewart and Jaques Villeneuve.

Stewart was on UK radio this morning and basically kept trying to say that it's only because Hamilton's in the best team/car etc. It was cringe-inducing listening to the sad old man struggling to accept that Hamilton's achievement. It's a shame to hear as Stewart is one of the great names in the sport.

Jys generally just talks about himself and how he taught the world about smooth! Also he's one of those who think Lewis ought to be grateful. I can't stand him, one of the greats or not. He highlights what a generous person our 6x wdc is: twice as nice too

[Just_a_fan]

Awaiting comments from Sir Jackey Stewart and Jaques Villeneuve.

Stewart was on UK radio this morning and basically kept trying to say that it's only because Hamilton's in the best team/car etc. It was cringe-inducing listening to the sad old man struggling to accept that Hamilton's achievement. It's a shame to hear as Stewart is one of the great names in the sport.

What radio station was he on ?

Radio 4 this morning.

[Sieper]

Also, I get it when it raises hairs when someone says "the car/team is just very good". On some point that is diminishing the result of the driver but it is also simply stating a fact. If it weren't for Lewis Valtteri would be WDC this year. I think Lewis is on a whole other level then Valtteri.

[maxxer]

Was reading the technical stuff on the fuel flow meter so it is possible to harvest fuel in the injector. And i guess with the efficiency of current fuels you dont need that much flow anymore

[Just_a_fan]

Also, I get it when it raises hairs when someone says "the car/team is just very good". On some point that is diminishing the result of the driver but it is also simply stating a fact. If it weren't for Lewis Valtteri would be WDC this year. I think Lewis is on a whole other level then Valtteri.

Of course the team and car make it possible - no driver has won titles in cars that aren't one of the best or with teams that are shoddy/poorly managed etc. Drivers in less than the best cars can win races - Seb in Monza, Hill almost in Hungary etc., but neither was ever going to win a title in those cars. Both needed the best cars to do that.

The thing that the "it's only the car" people forget, is that the driver still has to go out and do it time after time to win titles. Hamilton has done that better than his team mates almost every year (one season against Button, one against Rosberg are the two times when he didn't manage that feat). It's the ability to keep doing it at that level which is impressive.

[Bsowles]

The first 4 places were covered by about a tenth, with Lewis less than 3 tenths off pole in fifth. Lewis did not string his sectors together and knows he didn't and has said so. We should all be glad that it is so close at the front between three teams rather than just two team mates fighting it out. Lewis often loses a little of his competitive edge once a title is in the bag which it is barring any catastrophe and a sudden stellar run to the end by Valteri.

All this bickering is so tiresome and spoils these race threads.

This^ (last sentence)

[Restomaniac]

Also, I get it when it raises hairs when someone says "the car/team is just very good". On some point that is diminishing the result of the driver but it is also simply stating a fact. If it weren't for Lewis Valtteri would be WDC this year. I think Lewis is on a whole other level then Valtteri.

Of course the team and car make it possible - no driver has won titles in cars that aren't one of the best or with teams that are shoddy/poorly managed etc. Drivers in less than the best cars can win races - Seb in Monza, Hill almost in Hungary etc., but neither was ever going to win a title in those cars. Both needed the best cars to do that.

The thing that the "it's only the car" people forget, is that the driver still has to go out and do it time after time to win titles. Hamilton has done that better than his team mates almost every year (one season against Button, one against Rosberg are the two times when he didn't manage that feat). It's the ability to keep doing it at that level which is impressive.

Indeed and he managed it against a 2 time WDC in his rookie year!

[GPR-A]

Also, I get it when it raises hairs when someone says "the car/team is just very good". On some point that is diminishing the result of the driver but it is also simply stating a fact. If it weren't for Lewis Valtteri would be WDC this year. I think Lewis is on a whole other level then Valtteri.

Of course the team and car make it possible - no driver has won titles in cars that aren't one of the best or with teams that are shoddy/poorly managed etc. Drivers in less than the best cars can win races - Seb in Monza, Hill almost in Hungary etc., but neither was ever going to win a title in those cars. Both needed the best cars to do that.

The thing that the "it's only the car" people forget, is that the driver still has to go out and do it time after time to win titles. Hamilton has done that better than his team mates almost every year (one season against Button, one against Rosberg are the two times when he didn't manage that feat). It's the ability to keep doing it at that level which is impressive.

People often forget that the W08 (Diva) and W09 (Diva-ish) were difficult cars with a knife edge balance, unpredictable and small performance window which was up against SF70H and SF71, both of which were much better and easy cars for both setting up and for tyres. It was the driver who made the difference in winning the titles. Bottas could barely manage to win a race (Russia, though his team asked to let it go), which shows the difficulty of driving W09, whereas Lewis managed to win 10 (+1 in Russia). When the car was easy to drive, Bottas shines and when it is not, he struggles whereas Lewis saves the day for the team. It happened this year also when the new upgrade that was bolted in Germany, changed the behavior of the car and not until Suzuka upgrade, it was behaving well. Suddenly, Bottas was a force again while he struggled through Germany to Russia where he out qualified Lewis only once.

But because there was a continuity of winning momentum from 2016 onwards, people conveniently wrap it up as if the anyone could have won with those cars. Something similar to Marc Marquez on that Honda, albeit a more extreme scenario though.

[Bsowles]

Very impressive Ham. Waaaaay best car + status driver no. 1 in waaaay best team. Impressive championship as hell

To quote Justin Timberlake ‘cry me a river’.

Or Ella Fitzgerald...

Or Joe Cocker

[tpeman]

The two torpedo forces, Kvyat and Perez came together, unsurprisingly. Looks like Kvyat is competing with Max to show that Max can never beat him in the "Art of Destruction". RB has really got depleted in their talent pool due to which they gave him another opportunity.

Hey anyone else thinks Ocon is responsible for Perez' recent crashes?

To be fair though, the penalty was quite harsh (the one last time was completely deserved though). This particular one wasn't much different than a Verstappen or a Ricciardo move. Basically it was a Ric divebomb, but Perez didn't move out. I might get a lot of hate for that one, but Ham vs Ves last race was a lot harsher than this move. Also, pretty similar (if not identical) to Max vs Charles in Austria. Unfair penalty I think, based on opinions and impressions, rather than facts.

[Unc1eM0nty]

Stewart was on UK radio this morning and basically kept trying to say that it's only because Hamilton's in the best team/car etc. It was cringe-inducing listening to the sad old man struggling to accept that Hamilton's achievement. It's a shame to hear as Stewart is one of the great names in the sport.

What radio station was he on ?

Radio 4 this morning.

Yeah I heard this and chuckled, this must have really ruined his weekend, he was banging on about Fangio again

[Sieper]

Also, I get it when it raises hairs when someone says "the car/team is just very good". On some point that is diminishing the result of the driver but it is also simply stating a fact. If it weren't for Lewis Valtteri would be WDC this year. I think Lewis is on a whole other level then Valtteri.

Of course the team and car make it possible - no driver has won titles in cars that aren't one of the best or with teams that are shoddy/poorly managed etc. Drivers in less than the best cars can win races - Seb in Monza, Hill almost in Hungary etc., but neither was ever going to win a title in those cars. Both needed the best cars to do that.

The thing that the "it's only the car" people forget, is that the driver still has to go out and do it time after time to win titles. Hamilton has done that better than his team mates almost every year (one season against Button, one against Rosberg are the two times when he didn't manage that feat). It's the ability to keep doing it at that level which is impressive.

Yes, 100% agree. I would even go further, I am certainly not an expert but I think even an interested onlooker can see who is handling their car exceptionally well, who is in full control (or when not in control, who corrects quicker then quick) and to me Lewis has always been an absolute stand out in that field, you can see that every race, always when he is on track. Fernando Alonso also had that (imho) and he was beaten by Lewis.