2019 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 15-17 November

[zibby43]

He's quicker than Hamilton so his tactics are working great.

He just needs to time it just right

Anyway today in the cold and partly wet, Ferrari used full downforce, i don't know if they keep it if the track warms up.

And yet RBR lost 7 and Mercedes 8-9 tenths to the Ferraris on the straights?

I don't see where Merc and RB are getting those numbers. Ferrari would have to be losing massive amounts of time in the corners to be nearly a full second up on Mercedes in the straights with Bottas only .156 off the fastest time.

Meanwhile, Verstappen was quickest in S3, and even without the tow there, he would've been hundredths or thousandths off the best S3 time.

That said, Ferrari definitely still have a straightline advantage in Brazil.

[Wass85]

Bottas just sabotaging everybody, including his team mate...

He's quicker than Hamilton so his tactics are working great.

But not on the runs, he wasn't.

No but I feel he's going to be faster in qualifying once again.

[izzy]

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thanks . So if we get the Ferraris on pole but slower in the race that could be quite good! Alex tho... has to find some more pace eventually

[zibby43]

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thanks . So if we get the Ferraris on pole but slower in the race that could be quite good! Alex tho... has to find some more pace eventually

Welcome! Absolutely. Although, in the Mercedes debrief, Bottas seemed to indicate that Merc feel better about their single-lap pace.

"I had a bit of traffic in my fast laps and the times at the top look very close, so I think we are actually more competitive than the standings might suggest. I think both Ferrari and Red Bull look very strong, but we should be right up there as well, so I’m looking forward to a good fight."

[LM10]

He just needs to time it just right

Anyway today in the cold and partly wet, Ferrari used full downforce, i don't know if they keep it if the track warms up.

And yet RBR lost 7 and Mercedes 8-9 tenths to the Ferraris on the straights?

I don't see where Merc and RB are getting those numbers. Ferrari would have to be losing massive amounts of time in the corners to be nearly a full second up on Mercedes in the straights with Bottas only .156 off the fastest time.

Meanwhile, Verstappen was quickest in S3, and even without the tow there, he would've been hundredths or thousandths off the best S3 time.

That said, Ferrari definitely still have a straightline advantage in Brazil.

Those numbers are weird indeed and can't be true. Ferrari must be horrendously slow in the corners to lose all the gained speed.

[NathanOlder]

So apparently Ferrari are running full downforce, but are losing nearly a second in the corners......

Theres no way they are gaining 7 tenths on the straights. If that were true then you would say at at least 4 tenths of that would be sector 3. but the timing sheets say otherwise.

[Just_a_fan]

He's quicker than Hamilton so his tactics are working great.

But not on the runs, he wasn't.

No but I feel he's going to be faster in qualifying once again.

Maybe. But race pace is what puts pressure on strategy and drivers. In the US, Hamilton's strategy was only a few laps away from the win. A similar race in Brazil might give a a different result.

[Wass85]

But not on the runs, he wasn't.

No but I feel he's going to be faster in qualifying once again.

Maybe. But race pace is what puts pressure on strategy and drivers. In the US, Hamilton's strategy was only a few laps away from the win. A similar race in Brazil might give a a different result.

If he'd had put it on pole he would have won. Starting as far to the front as possible is a massive benefit, failing to do so ups the odds of winning massively.

Let's hope he can put it on pole, it's been ages since he's done so.

[Wass85]

So apparently Ferrari are running full downforce, but are losing nearly a second in the corners......

Theres no way they are gaining 7 tenths on the straights. If that were true then you would say at at least 4 tenths of that would be sector 3. but the timing sheets say otherwise.

It's just Horner's way of saying Ferrari are faster, the Honda is now plenty powerful enough.

[zibby43]

And yet RBR lost 7 and Mercedes 8-9 tenths to the Ferraris on the straights?

I don't see where Merc and RB are getting those numbers. Ferrari would have to be losing massive amounts of time in the corners to be nearly a full second up on Mercedes in the straights with Bottas only .156 off the fastest time.

Meanwhile, Verstappen was quickest in S3, and even without the tow there, he would've been hundredths or thousandths off the best S3 time.

That said, Ferrari definitely still have a straightline advantage in Brazil.

Those numbers are weird indeed and can't be true. Ferrari must be horrendously slow in the corners to lose all the gained speed.

Perhaps it's sort of a data forecast? What I mean is, Ferrari and Red Bull are utilizing their GPS data from FP2, and taking into account fuel loads, PU settings, etc., they're extrapolating that come qualifying, Ferrari's straightline advantage will be "x" tenths.

[FrukostScones]

So apparently Ferrari are running full downforce, but are losing nearly a second in the corners......

Theres no way they are gaining 7 tenths on the straights. If that were true then you would say at at least 4 tenths of that would be sector 3. but the timing sheets say otherwise.

conclusion: they are not running "full downforce".

[NathanOlder]

So apparently Ferrari are running full downforce, but are losing nearly a second in the corners......

Theres no way they are gaining 7 tenths on the straights. If that were true then you would say at at least 4 tenths of that would be sector 3. but the timing sheets say otherwise.

conclusion: they are not running "full downforce".

And they are not 7 tenths up on the straights. Because the straights are S1 and S3. and the sector times tell a different story

[Wass85]

Any update on the weather, dry or wet qualifying likely?

[Phil]

So apparently Ferrari are running full downforce, but are losing nearly a second in the corners......

Theres no way they are gaining 7 tenths on the straights. If that were true then you would say at at least 4 tenths of that would be sector 3. but the timing sheets say otherwise.

conclusion: they are not running "full downforce".

And they are not 7 tenths up on the straights. Because the straights are S1 and S3. and the sector times tell a different story

They are only calculating the times lost on the straights - all of them.

[MtthsMlw]

Any update on the weather, dry or wet qualifying likely?