2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Juzh
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verstappen's pole lap 1.07.508
https://streamable.com/uq1n1


His Q2 lap, which was his fastest lap actually (by 0.005s)
https://streamable.com/dpys6


vs vettel - honda is pretty handy on the straights
https://streamable.com/1duxi

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loner wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:03
Wouter wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:00
loner wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 22:36
SECOND POLE for Max
https://i.imgur.com/HZLcGu0.gif
No, no!! Max thinks otherwise! :lol:

https://twitter.com/Mattzel89/status/11 ... 0769819648
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so did or did not RBR use a new front wing during qualifying coz iam confused?!!
They did not use the new frontwing.
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Juzh wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:07
verstappen's pole lap 1.07.508
https://streamable.com/uq1n1
https://streamable.com/uq1n1

His Q2 lap, which was his fastest lap actually (by 0.005s)
https://streamable.com/dpys6
https://streamable.com/dpys6

vs vettel - honda is pretty handy on the straights
https://streamable.com/1duxi
https://streamable.com/1duxi
At 1:11 Vettel is at 192 km/h and Max at 202 km/h. Up until there Vettel was 10 or more km/h down. Then he outaccelerates him and is at 258 km/h vs. Verstappens 257 km/h. No DRS there yet and Ferrari with the clearly bigger rear wing.
Still hard to interpret what has changed, if you ask me.

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LM10 wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:27
Juzh wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:07
verstappen's pole lap 1.07.508
https://streamable.com/uq1n1
https://streamable.com/uq1n1

His Q2 lap, which was his fastest lap actually (by 0.005s)
https://streamable.com/dpys6
https://streamable.com/dpys6

vs vettel - honda is pretty handy on the straights
https://streamable.com/1duxi
https://streamable.com/1duxi
At 1:11 Vettel is at 192 km/h and Max at 202 km/h. Up until there Vettel was 10 or more km/h down. Then he outaccelerates him and is at 258 km/h vs. Verstappens 257 km/h. No DRS there yet and Ferrari with the clearly bigger rear wing.
Still hard to interpret what has changed, if you ask me.
Dont read too much into such precise speed readings. It's next to impossible to sync speedometers with such accuracy to be able to do point based messurements. It's possible vettel's speedo is slightly ahead and verstappen is slighty behind or vice versa. Difference might only be a tenth or two, but for F1 car that's enough to make a noticable difference.

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That Ferrari has tremendous acceleration.
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Juzh wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:42
LM10 wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:27
Juzh wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:07
verstappen's pole lap 1.07.508
https://streamable.com/uq1n1
https://streamable.com/uq1n1

His Q2 lap, which was his fastest lap actually (by 0.005s)
https://streamable.com/dpys6
https://streamable.com/dpys6

vs vettel - honda is pretty handy on the straights
https://streamable.com/1duxi
https://streamable.com/1duxi
At 1:11 Vettel is at 192 km/h and Max at 202 km/h. Up until there Vettel was 10 or more km/h down. Then he outaccelerates him and is at 258 km/h vs. Verstappens 257 km/h. No DRS there yet and Ferrari with the clearly bigger rear wing.
Still hard to interpret what has changed, if you ask me.
Dont read too much into such precise speed readings. It's next to impossible to sync speedometers with such accuracy to be able to do point based messurements. It's possible vettel's speedo is slightly ahead and verstappen is slighty behind or vice versa. Difference might only be a tenth or two, but for F1 car that's enough to make a noticable difference.
You’re right, but no matter who’s speedo might be slightly in front, what we see is two speedos next to each other, one showing less and the other more speed. At the end it’s turned around. It means that Vettel outaccelerated Max, doesn’t it?
Not only in the hot lap, same goes for the acceleration at the end of the outlap before they start their hot laps. Vettel is slower and significantly outaccelerating even without DRS which opens at about 290 km/h.

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Wonder why Horner is saying they r losing 7 tenths on the straight.

Really proud of what Honda has achieved this year
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Horner is incapable of giving engine manufacturer any credit he frustrated Renault during their time together, but Honda is as good as the Ferrari and better than Mercedes at least at high altitude tracks.

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Sayeman wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 02:47
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Wonder why Horner is saying they r losing 7 tenths on the straight.

Really proud of what Honda has achieved this year
This is the final sector times after Q3
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All three teams are even more closer

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LM10 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 00:52
Juzh wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:42
LM10 wrote:
16 Nov 2019, 23:27


At 1:11 Vettel is at 192 km/h and Max at 202 km/h. Up until there Vettel was 10 or more km/h down. Then he outaccelerates him and is at 258 km/h vs. Verstappens 257 km/h. No DRS there yet and Ferrari with the clearly bigger rear wing.
Still hard to interpret what has changed, if you ask me.
Dont read too much into such precise speed readings. It's next to impossible to sync speedometers with such accuracy to be able to do point based messurements. It's possible vettel's speedo is slightly ahead and verstappen is slighty behind or vice versa. Difference might only be a tenth or two, but for F1 car that's enough to make a noticable difference.
You’re right, but no matter who’s speedo might be slightly in front, what we see is two speedos next to each other, one showing less and the other more speed. At the end it’s turned around. It means that Vettel outaccelerated Max, doesn’t it?
Not only in the hot lap, same goes for the acceleration at the end of the outlap before they start their hot laps. Vettel is slower and significantly outaccelerating even without DRS which opens at about 290 km/h.
You're right in the first case. he does simply out accelerate him there.
For the second case when they start the lap, you shouldn't read into it, because PUs are not flat out up until very late into the hill climb, becase it's not worth it to waste energy before the lap has even started. Last year it was only ferrari who was doing it for whatever reason and now they're all doing it.

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Horner is playing mind games. Remember that both Ferrai could lose to Verstappen. Especially if he wins today.
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Interesting Albon start next to Gasly.He is closer to Gasly than he is to Max . Hot temperatures should favor Rbr

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Bill wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 19:09
Interesting Albon start next to Gasly.He is closer to Gasly than he is to Max . Hot temperatures should favor Rbr
They didn't like the hot temps in Hungary.

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Gasly Gasly Gasly that's a statement right there

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I cried when Gasly won that drag race. Enjoy that Podium Gasly. Well deserved!

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