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It was a guaranteed second place regardless of whether he could have got past the Red Bull or not. It was far more stupid to leave him out and subsequently completely exposed to a group of fast cars on far better tyres right behind him.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:17No, that was the thing to do as Lewis didn't have the pace to pass Max.El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:14No, the mistake was not following Verstappen into the pits under the first safety car. They left him an absolute sitting duck at the restart. It's clear the Honda engine was every bit as good, if not slightly better than the Mercedes one here, and on old tyres? It was inevitable he'd get overtaken.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:11Mercedes dropped the ball here, fair play they got the undercut at the first stops but Hamilton was swamped by Max.
Their mistake was in the second stint, Lewis had good pace as he was catching Max at the end of the stint. They should have pushed harder earlier and gone for the undercut on hards, that way they would have forced Red Bull in to doing a longer stint on the mediums.
it was a crap, unsatisfying race. Another SC for a car that was right by an exit gap, only needed a rope, that led to more incidents and another SC, so the result was just all about SC's instead of racing for 300km
They were thinking about the win and the win only. They gave it a shot but Verstappen got past Hamilton at the first opportunity.El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:24It was a guaranteed second place regardless of whether he could have got past the Red Bull or not. It was far more stupid to leave him out and subsequently completely exposed to a group of fast cars on far better tyres right behind him.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:17No, that was the thing to do as Lewis didn't have the pace to pass Max.El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:14
No, the mistake was not following Verstappen into the pits under the first safety car. They left him an absolute sitting duck at the restart. It's clear the Honda engine was every bit as good, if not slightly better than the Mercedes one here, and on old tyres? It was inevitable he'd get overtaken.
We disagreed about safety cars a month or so ago, but I 100% agree with you about today's one. That safety car was simply not necessary, and completely changed the outcome of the race.
He did. Because of the complete disparity between old, medium tyres and new, soft tyres, and the relative strong performance of the Red Bull compared to the Mercedes around this circuit. It was clear as day to anyone what would immediately happen. He's lucky the Ferraris crashed into each other or he'd have probably lost more places.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:27They were thinking about the win and the win only. They gave it a shot but Verstappen got past Hamilton at the first opportunity.El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:24It was a guaranteed second place regardless of whether he could have got past the Red Bull or not. It was far more stupid to leave him out and subsequently completely exposed to a group of fast cars on far better tyres right behind him.
Maybe the car had a high voltage problem , you want to go in there and get shocked ?
He did so because Lewis had a terrible restart. Saying that it was just a matter of time, he would have passed Lewis with ease at some other point.El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:30He did. Because of the complete disparity between old, medium tyres and new, soft tyres, and the relative strong performance of the Red Bull compared to the Mercedes around this circuit. It was clear as day to anyone what would immediately happen. He's lucky the Ferraris crashed into each other or he'd have probably lost more places.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:27They were thinking about the win and the win only. They gave it a shot but Verstappen got past Hamilton at the first opportunity.El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:24
It was a guaranteed second place regardless of whether he could have got past the Red Bull or not. It was far more stupid to leave him out and subsequently completely exposed to a group of fast cars on far better tyres right behind him.
You dont know if the crew called in because of some high voltage risk ! they called it in !El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 21:27We disagreed about safety cars a month or so ago, but I 100% agree with you about today's one. That safety car was simply not necessary, and completely changed the outcome of the race.