So what aspects of the car is the “money maker”, what separates the top 3 from the midfield, where on the car does McLaren need the improvements to close the gap? I hope they’re not too numerous to list.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:16Next year will be an important milestone for McLaren. It will be the first car they develop from the ground up with the team they recently assembled in the last 2 years.
James Key, and Andreas Seidl have been in charge through the entire development phase of the 2020 McLaren. So this car will be a preview of what to expect from McLaren in the coming years.
Tyres, Suspension, Aero, Engine...Ground Effect wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:46So what aspects of the car is the “money maker”, what separates the top 3 from the midfield, where on the car does McLaren need the improvements to close the gap? I hope they’re not too numerous to list.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:16Next year will be an important milestone for McLaren. It will be the first car they develop from the ground up with the team they recently assembled in the last 2 years.
James Key, and Andreas Seidl have been in charge through the entire development phase of the 2020 McLaren. So this car will be a preview of what to expect from McLaren in the coming years.
In above order of importance, or is this randomly listed?M840TR wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 19:36Tyres, Suspension, Aero, Engine...Ground Effect wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:46So what aspects of the car is the “money maker”, what separates the top 3 from the midfield, where on the car does McLaren need the improvements to close the gap? I hope they’re not too numerous to list.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:16Next year will be an important milestone for McLaren. It will be the first car they develop from the ground up with the team they recently assembled in the last 2 years.
James Key, and Andreas Seidl have been in charge through the entire development phase of the 2020 McLaren. So this car will be a preview of what to expect from McLaren in the coming years.
Well they are moving too Merc engine so that sorts that. Better aero will fix the tyres issues and better suspension will make the aero work better.
Tires and therefore suspension are changing in 2021. That money is better spent on 2021 tires... Now that I think about everything listed above is changing for 2021. Wow a lame duck season coming up ...Maplesoup wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 20:35Well they are moving too Merc engine so that sorts that. Better aero will fix the tyres issues and better suspension will make the aero work better.
So I'd argue suspension and aero are the main 2. Better suspension is probably one of the reasons why Red bull was faster in a straight line than Merc in Brazil.
Except that they have to prepare 2021 with less budget than top teams.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:16Next year will be an important milestone for McLaren. It will be the first car they develop from the ground up with the team they recently assembled in the last 2 years.
James Key, and Andreas Seidl have been in charge through the entire development phase of the 2020 McLaren. So this car will be a preview of what to expect from McLaren in the coming years.
If McLaren is throwing money at a new wind tunnel, and Brown is bringing in sponsors and investment, I doubt McLaren will be hurting financially.Jambier wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 21:31Except that they have to prepare 2021 with less budget than top teams.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:16Next year will be an important milestone for McLaren. It will be the first car they develop from the ground up with the team they recently assembled in the last 2 years.
James Key, and Andreas Seidl have been in charge through the entire development phase of the 2020 McLaren. So this car will be a preview of what to expect from McLaren in the coming years.
So they must "sacrifize" a bit 2020, and prepare new rules + engine change for 2021
I think they must avoid the 2013 mistake. So keep the current car and improve it, fix its issues should be enough to be P4 next year again and build the future
Their car concept has flaws and they know that. It's cheaper to run with a concept that they know will solve the problems rather than fight the existing chassis to conform. Makes perfect sense.LM10 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 23:08Last month Andreas Seidl told that they are going for a concept change for next season. Considering they've done pretty decent steps with their upgrades this season, it's a bit surprising. They know that such changes are risky to some extent, but they're in full attacking mode to reach the top 3.
Ok then, I'm not so informed about the McLaren. What are the flaws of it's concept? From what I've seen it's a fast car in high speed corners. I assume they're going to add more downforce (no brainer) and try to increase it's slow speed performance/mechanical grip?Maplesoup wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 23:18Their car concept has flaws and they know that. It's cheaper to run with a concept that they know will solve the problems rather than fight the existing chassis to conform. Makes perfect sense.LM10 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 23:08Last month Andreas Seidl told that they are going for a concept change for next season. Considering they've done pretty decent steps with their upgrades this season, it's a bit surprising. They know that such changes are risky to some extent, but they're in full attacking mode to reach the top 3.
They said that they are gonna update the pit stop tools. Also Zak said they were gonna priorities reliability.kfrantzios wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 23:00Well there are some things that will not change and could improve. Not all of them are huge differentiators though. Pit stop speed, track operations, aero correlation, hydraulics, gearbox reliability, software to name a few.
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Ground Effect wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:46So what aspects of the car is the “money maker”, what separates the top 3 from the midfield, where on the car does McLaren need the improvements to close the gap? I hope they’re not too numerous to list.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 18:16Next year will be an important milestone for McLaren. It will be the first car they develop from the ground up with the team they recently assembled in the last 2 years.
James Key, and Andreas Seidl have been in charge through the entire development phase of the 2020 McLaren. So this car will be a preview of what to expect from McLaren in the coming years.