2019 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina Circuit, 29 - 1 November/December

[izzy]

The power boost allowed them to strap on extra down-force.. now they have had to take it off again, which has lead to them being 0.7 sec slower in sector 3 alone. The video shows that they are fast in straights like they have always been since the season start, but they are nowhere as strong in straight sectors like they used to be after the summer break.. but now they are less fast in straight sectors (just fractionally) and massively slower in corners which indicate that they have taken off their downforce to compensate power loss.

i don't know, I mean they know this track and their car, they have all kinds of data, it's not a sensible trade-off to have made it deliberately. These are pretty slow corners after all, i think it's more likely their concept just doesn't stretch this far whatever they do. FIA have pretty much given up the investigation until next year, so why wouldn't Ferrari leave it on, whatever it is and if it exists? Piero right there in the garage

[LionKing]

Ferrari smashes the opponent in the acceleration phases like before.

Not like they used to, because they used to gain a lot more than they did today.

From the video, Ferrari gains a lot during straights.
I think, I saw three different straight sections in which they gained 3 tenths on one and 2 tenths on the other two.

[Sevach]

Ferrari seems to still be pulling multiple car lenghts down the straight, but their chassis is working so bad that they lose everything in a single corner, the difference is huge like it's a mid grid team.
Why that wasn't the case in Singapore or Sochi is the question.

Singapore could be because bumps hurt Mercedes more...

As has been pointed out, FIA issued a clarification(one that was frankly obvious) but didn't change anything in their sensors yet, so even if that is what Ferrari is/was doing would they drop it in a "oh i didn't think bypassing the sensors was illegal, my bad".

[Capharol]

funny where were the Ferrari's

In Austin Ferrari were slower because they ran more downforce, in Brazil it was the height and more downforce and now it’s because they ran with less downforce . They’re running out of excuses.

i know, they did that already at Brazil.... i have my opinion (It's the same as yours) on the why, but these isn't shared by all and these still seek for an excuse

[Just_a_fan]

If the Ferraris are as quick on the straight in the race as they were in qualifying, they will be looking at an overtake in the first lap. One of them could be in the lead by the end of lap 1.

[Juzh]

hamilton p1
https://streamable.com/qiqjg


verstappen p3
https://streamable.com/17bu2


leclerc p4
https://streamable.com/6mm0u


ricciardo p6
https://streamable.com/01sh7


sainz p9
https://streamable.com/ncoxv



verstappen vs leclerc
https://streamable.com/ail91


hamilton vs verstappen
https://streamable.com/8z9nm

[NathanOlder]

One can make up their mind after watching this.
https://streamable.com/ebzx0

Thanks for sharing. Nice to see.

But only gaining a tenth and a half on a straight instead of 5 tenths is what's making the difference.

The biggest straight on the track Leclerc was 1 tenth up on the exit of the hairpin, and never made it to 3 tenths up. so 0.180 maybe. With that performance on the straight, they would never ever get anywhere near merc in Singapore. but.....

[Morteza]

[MtthsMlw]

One can make up their mind after watching this.
https://streamable.com/ebzx0

Thanks for sharing. Nice to see.

But only gaining a tenth and a half on a straight instead of 5 tenths is what's making the difference.

The biggest straight on the track Leclerc was 1 tenth up on the exit of the hairpin, and never made it to 3 tenths up. so 0.180 maybe. With that performance on the straight, they would never ever get anywhere near merc in Singapore. but.....

I see half a tenth on finish line to turn one, 1 tenth through the flat out turn 2,3, and 4, around 3.8 tenths on the two long straights combined. Overall ~5.3 tenths.

In Singapore we have >0.25 tenths on the pit straight, 1.25 on Raffles Boulevard, 0.5 from turn 9 to 10, then actually loosing 0.5 on the second DRS straight - overall we are at >2 tenths gained there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u--yM2UY4tQ

Leclerc was on Pole in Singapore because he was faster in many corners as well, whereas here he's only really faster in the hairpin. That's simply not enough.
I don't see any drop of in straight line performance.

[LM10]

One can make up their mind after watching this.
https://streamable.com/ebzx0

Thanks for sharing. Nice to see.

But only gaining a tenth and a half on a straight instead of 5 tenths is what's making the difference.

The biggest straight on the track Leclerc was 1 tenth up on the exit of the hairpin, and never made it to 3 tenths up. so 0.180 maybe. With that performance on the straight, they would never ever get anywhere near merc in Singapore. but.....

https://streamable.com/hilmj

Watch this video. That’s the mini sector comparison in Russia. I don’t see a difference in the way Ferrari gains under acceleration and on the straights compared to Abu Dhabi. The only difference is that in Russia Leclerc didn’t lose in the corners (except S3), but in Abu Dhabi Ferrari lost massively in every corner.
I don’t know why. But PU performance would be one of the last things I would think about when talking about cornering.

[jumpingfish]

One can make up their mind after watching this.
https://streamable.com/ebzx0

Thanks for sharing. Nice to see.

But only gaining a tenth and a half on a straight instead of 5 tenths is what's making the difference.

The biggest straight on the track Leclerc was 1 tenth up on the exit of the hairpin, and never made it to 3 tenths up. so 0.180 maybe. With that performance on the straight, they would never ever get anywhere near merc in Singapore. but.....

Why do you think Mercedes/RB/Ferrari parameters are constant during whole the season? W10 was slower in Brazil, but looks faster in Abu-Dhabi. RB15 sometimes faster than other cars, sometimes slower, for everybody it is absolutely normal things during racing weekends, everyone talking about smaller or bigger turbocharger, altitude above the sea level, no one says: haha, look, Directives slowed them down. But why if Ferrari slower or faster - it is only cheat-mode on/off? WHY no one thinking about turbo sizes, wings sizes, balance between downforce and straightline speeds, tyres management?
How can you compare, for example, SF90 in Monza or in Spa vs SF90 in Abu-Dhabi and waiting same advantage on straights? Is it the same car with the same tyres, same balance, wings settings or maybe Yas-Marina circuit has same corners, air temperatures, same distance, tyre degradation?
Only 1 comparison arm chair experts can do to see TD influence: if Ferrari, RB and Mercedes bring the versions of their car those were in Singapore and run qualy mode only in Singapore. To compare Monza - go to Italy with W10, SF90 and RB15 in Monza version. But it is not enough, the weather must be the same, traffic, fuel level, drivers, atmospheric pressure, wind direction and speed - everything must be the same. Only after that you can tell if TD slowed Ferrari on straights.

[Snorked]

According to amus / Red Bull engineer , their peak power deficit has been reduced to 15kW since the TDs, before it was around 40kW

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... t-redbull/

[TAG]

Occam's Razor: The simpler explanation is the most likely.
Tifosi Razor: The most complex explanation is the most likely.

[dans79]

I don’t know why. But PU performance would be one of the last things I would think about when talking about cornering.

If you lost power for one reason or another the simplest and most feasible way to compensate for that this late into the season is to remove downforce and thus reduce drag. That will have a very direct impact on the car's cornering ability.

[godlameroso]

Looks like Verstappen lost out in the chicanes and the high speed corners, but couldn't make anything up in the straights, and Hamilton almost matched him on braking. It could have been maybe a tenth closer, but it looks like Hamilton is going to win this unless Mercedes bungles up in the pits or with strategy. As it is, he's a few tenths faster than Verstappen so even if Verstappen does everything perfect he will only keep pace at best. Maybe traffic can play into his hands as there will likely be lapped cars getting in the way.