F1 2020 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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bosyber wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 11:59
The marker might just be Hamilton 'marking' the data as he does something (leaving the pit lane, pressing a certain setting etc) so they can easier see what it does/talk about it - but they are definitely up to trying something with that. So, nice to see something new in F1, not sure we've seen something quite this mechanic for a while (linked suspension was w/o driver input and not visible, so this is much more fun, I think ;)
I agree. I wasn’t saying the word Marker was a code for anything but just that it’s timing was in line with whatever they seem to be up to with the wheel movement.

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RP chief has just admitted they’ve copied the W10......Via photos. I’m not sure I buy that last part.

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Since people noticed the Mercedes wheel, they’ve stopped doing it. Clearly there’s something there they’re not keen for everyone to know/see

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intriguing with merc, and nice spotted, this is why i love this sport, innovation

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Vigas78 wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 11:30
Hamilton's steering wheel moves longitudinally

I love F1 for this stuff, but atm I have no idea how on earth Merc can argue this is legal.
FIA Technical Regulations 2020 wrote:10.2.3 No adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion.

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jetho wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:16
Vigas78 wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 11:30
Hamilton's steering wheel moves longitudinally

I love F1 for this stuff, but atm I have no idea how on earth Merc can argue this is legal.
FIA Technical Regulations 2020 wrote:10.2.3 No adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion.
It's probably just moving the steering arm.

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jetho wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:16
Vigas78 wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 11:30
Hamilton's steering wheel moves longitudinally

I love F1 for this stuff, but atm I have no idea how on earth Merc can argue this is legal.
FIA Technical Regulations 2020 wrote:10.2.3 No adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion.
True but aren’t teams supposed to get clearance from the FIA during a cars design phase?
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Is the steering system technically a separate system though ? could be allowed on those grounds
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NathanOlder wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:21
Is the steering system technically a separate system though ? could be allowed on those grounds
this would be my view. It steers, doesnt support. how they are adjusting toe and does it alter the ride height would be a key question

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Restomaniac wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:20
True but aren’t teams supposed to get clearance from the FIA in car ideas?
they might have clearance

it is just a steering input isn't it, basically, going 3-D is all :idea:

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Mercedes shifted their development towards this car very early last season and its starting to show with all these innovations, though how does moving the steeling wheel back gain you time though and what does this control?

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matt_b wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:31
Mercedes shifted their development towards this car very early last season and its starting to show with all these innovations, though how does moving the steeling wheel back gain you time though and what does this control?
It looks like its making the front wheels move inwards. Adjusting the width of the front axle.
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izzy wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:26
Restomaniac wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:20
True but aren’t teams supposed to get clearance from the FIA in car ideas?
they might have clearance

it is just a steering input isn't it, basically, going 3-D is all :idea:
But that’s my point. If it got clearance then surely by default it passes the regs?

This is what amazes me as it happened last season with the Ferrari wing mirrors, with Fric, etc. How many time do teams bring something that’s clearly been passed only for it to the be classed as not within the rules?

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NathanOlder wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:32
matt_b wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:31
Mercedes shifted their development towards this car very early last season and its starting to show with all these innovations, though how does moving the steeling wheel back gain you time though and what does this control?
It looks like its making the front wheels move inwards. Adjusting the width of the front axle.
After looking closely Sky think it’s them removing toe in a straight line.

Joking aside THIS is what testing should be about. A brand new idea to be dissected.

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Restomaniac wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:33
But that’s my point. If it got clearance then surely by default it passes the regs?

This is what amazes me as it happened last season with the Ferrari wing mirrors, with Fric, etc. How many time do teams bring something that’s clearly been passed only for it to the be classed as not within the rules?
yes F1 is like that isn't it, they do it on the fly with TD's and interpretations. so it could go either way, but watching some more it does look like Scarbs has it right, that he pulls it at the start of the straight so it takes out the toe in, and pushes it at the end of the straight to go back to normal

It's 3-D steering, not an 'adjustment', i love it :D

I expect they will ban it, it's a question of right now or for next year