[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[godlameroso]

I think Renault plans a nice upgrade sometime mid season.

[diffuser]

Which is compromised due to Racing Point, but anyway, they should not lose to much time on 2020, let's work on 2021

I 2nd that!

As I still believe the whole pink Mercedes thing is a hype and I think it will blow out in Melbourne it's not that easy to just copy something and make it work

hopefully

[Jambier]

I think Renault plans a nice upgrade sometime mid season.

Well actually Taffin said they will have one upgrade mid season for reliability.

But really, they are working on 2021 engine (and chassis). So nothing very good to expect for McLaren 2020, that is indeed one issue to be a customer

[diffuser]

I think Renault plans a nice upgrade sometime mid season.

Well actually Taffin said they will have one upgrade mid season for reliability.

But really, they are working on 2021 engine (and chassis). So nothing very good to expect for McLaren 2020, that is indeed one issue to be a customer

Sounds like Cyril is just talking down what they're doing instead of playing them up. Anyways in races, you're running so much slower than max out. I would NOT fall on my sword cause Merc have upped thier game by 2 tenths. When the bulk of what you're down is in the chassis.

[diffuser]

Let's write 2021 off as well and focus on 2022.

Well TBH they've written that off as well. Said it would take a few years in the new regs before they could really be competative.

[diffuser]

“Only McLaren and the Renault factory team are still difficult to classify. In terms of chassis, McLaren is among the top four. But Carlos Sainz and Lando Norris have a problem in the back. ABMS learned: In contrast to Mercedes, Honda and Ferrari, Renault has NOT further developed its engine since 2019. An insider: “Then you lose two to three tenths at once - solely due to the drive””

https://f1-insider.com/f1/f1-tests-wo-s ... -wirklich/

Does the McLaren insider think they are among the top 4 or is it speculation by the journo?

I personally think they are close to top 3 and tracing point is not a big issue. Or may be it’s just wishful thinking on my part.

Last year, everyone had Ferrari on top. Top turned out to be flop. Most had McLaren pretty far down the time sheet too.

You really don't know anything yet.

[bauc]

“Only McLaren and the Renault factory team are still difficult to classify. In terms of chassis, McLaren is among the top four. But Carlos Sainz and Lando Norris have a problem in the back. ABMS learned: In contrast to Mercedes, Honda and Ferrari, Renault has NOT further developed its engine since 2019. An insider: “Then you lose two to three tenths at once - solely due to the drive””

https://f1-insider.com/f1/f1-tests-wo-s ... -wirklich/

Does the McLaren insider think they are among the top 4 or is it speculation by the journo?

I personally think they are close to top 3 and tracing point is not a big issue. Or may be it’s just wishful thinking on my part.

Last year, everyone had Ferrari on top. Top turned out to be flop. Most had McLaren pretty far down the time sheet too.

You really don't know anything yet.

#AUTOSPORT and their predictions last year that Mclaren is 2nd to last

[Vasconia]

I 2nd that!

As I still believe the whole pink Mercedes thing is a hype and I think it will blow out in Melbourne it's not that easy to just copy something and make it work

hopefully

If it happens it could be the most successful plagiarism in recent history.

[mclaren111]

I think Renault plans a nice upgrade sometime mid season.

Well actually Taffin said they will have one upgrade mid season for reliability.

But really, they are working on 2021 engine (and chassis). So nothing very good to expect for McLaren 2020, that is indeed one issue to be a customer

Mclaren are moving to Merc engines from 2021 for 3 year contract...

Let's hope they can get a works deal with someone after that...

[Ground Effect]

I think Renault plans a nice upgrade sometime mid season.

Well actually Taffin said they will have one upgrade mid season for reliability.

But really, they are working on 2021 engine (and chassis). So nothing very good to expect for McLaren 2020, that is indeed one issue to be a customer

Mclaren are moving to Merc engines from 2021 for 3 year contract...

Let's hope they can get a works deal with someone after that...

Electric may kill F1 before they get the chance

[mclaren111]

Well actually Taffin said they will have one upgrade mid season for reliability.

But really, they are working on 2021 engine (and chassis). So nothing very good to expect for McLaren 2020, that is indeed one issue to be a customer

Mclaren are moving to Merc engines from 2021 for 3 year contract...

Let's hope they can get a works deal with someone after that...

Electric may kill F1 before they get the chance

I think 10/15 years from now the politicians will realize the sh*t electric cars is creating (toxic batteries & the disposal thereof) and they will move to something else... It's a large money making Scam like most other things...

The combustion engine with clean fuel still has a long lifespan...

[thestig84]

Mclaren are moving to Merc engines from 2021 for 3 year contract...

Let's hope they can get a works deal with someone after that...

Electric may kill F1 before they get the chance

I think 10/15 years from now the politicians will realize the sh*t electric cars is creating (toxic batteries & the disposal thereof) and they will move to something else... It's a large money making Scam like most other things...

The combustion engine with clean fuel still has a long lifespan...

I dont know where to start with all the classic pro oil company PR you have fallen for there!
Have a good research (not national newspaper tosh) into how "toxic" batteries are compared to your "clean" fuel. Also the disposal and how recycling lithium ion is actually improving their efficiency not to mention direct recycling after vehicle use as storage to balance the grid (peak demand V energy surplus times). Anyway this isn't the place for such topics

[dp12]

Mclaren are moving to Merc engines from 2021 for 3 year contract...

Let's hope they can get a works deal with someone after that...

Electric may kill F1 before they get the chance

I think 10/15 years from now the politicians will realize the sh*t electric cars is creating (toxic batteries & the disposal thereof) and they will move to something else... It's a large money making Scam like most other things...

The combustion engine with clean fuel still has a long lifespan...

Hydrogen as fuel source is the future. Better if this is discussed on another thread

[Ground Effect]

So, some reports are even suggesting that Racing Point are currently ahead of Ferrari and just behind Red Bull, with Checo in the fight for pole and podiums early on in the season. I’m still not too worried, since the team were happy with the basic MCL35, hopefully the updates will be significant and a game changer....

[thestig84]

So, some reports are even suggesting that Racing Point are currently ahead of Ferrari and just behind Red Bull, with Checo in the fight for pole and podiums early on in the season. I’m still not too worried, since the team were happy with the basic MCL35, hopefully the updates will be significant and a game changer....

Yeah I agree with not being too worried about RP. That copy car was bound to hit the ground running. They dont need to worry about correlation issues and if concepts work as its all been proven last year!! Mclaren now have a base (not as proven as a car run all last year granted!) I'm hopeful that now most good teams will breeze past a car from last year