[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[elldizzle]

Reading everyones opinions has been interesting. A few of you seem hell bent on seeing low fuel glory runs on soft tyres, hoping in some way that will be a metric by which you're able to "rank" this car's place in the pecking order.
A lot of talk about Sector 3, but a huge part of the teams feedback will come from the drivers feel and their data. And may not be reflected on the timesheets. Mclaren may have a full picture of their cars performance, without doing a single Quali sim, all based on Data and driver feedback. This seasons testing seems to be a very measured and analytical approach, testing then confirming correlation for a great understanding of this car and its development path. And maybe a bit of sandbagging in there.
The confidence and body languyage of the team all seems to suggest a quiet confidence in this car.
Racing point may show some speed now, but I feel that car will not be able to be developed and will fall back quickly throughout the season.

[kimetic]

Racing point may show some speed now, but I feel that car will not be able to be developed and will fall back quickly throughout the season.

RP have a better wind tunnel, for the time being, the most successful chassis concept, and what's looking like the best powertrain and suspension, as well as the W11's footsteps to follow. It's a formidable combination, and not to be underestimated I predict. McLaren will have to be very good to beat it, but let's see. They have a driver advantage at least.

[Mansell89]

Add to that we are final year of regs- how much development will we see in-season? After Spain I suspect the focus begins to change, especially when the paddock sees just how far Mercedes are in front.

[SmallSoldier]

The next couple of days will be interesting if they do go for some performance runs (which I suspect most teams will)... It will allow us to continue to speculate on the potential grid order without having enough information to do so (which seems we all love to do)...

I’m glad that the team is following a plan that doesn’t imply satisfying sponsors or fans with “Glory Runs” and committing to what they think is the best approach for this season... How many times we have heard during the first half of the season that they are still “understanding” the car and learning about it... If what they are doing allows them to start the season with more understanding of the car, it’s potential and limits at an earlier stage of the season, that’s a success in itself.


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[Xero]

RP have a better wind tunnel, for the time being, the most successful chassis concept, and what's looking like the best powertrain and suspension, as well as the W11's footsteps to follow. It's a formidable combination, and not to be underestimated I predict. McLaren will have to be very good to beat it, but let's see. They have a driver advantage at least.

A wind tunnel is useless unless your engineers are fully capable of understanding a car concept that none of them could think of themselves. I'm sure it'll hit the sweet spot on certain circuits, but getting it to behave in a wide range of conditions could be their downfall. More often than not they could be scrapping over the final points.

No point making any bold estimations of any car, especially McLaren at this stage. We were here last year. Most people had McLaren pegged as being at the back with Williams, Ferrari off in the distance up front. Yep, that didn't pan out so well. We'll maybe get a better idea on Friday once we're close to Melbourne spec, and if they decide to do a qually sim. So far with the incomplete car though, they look solid. Car looks superbly balanced, and the team are being methodical and thorough with their limited testing time. Now that to me screams "formidable" and "not to be underestimated".

[elldizzle]

Racing point may show some speed now, but I feel that car will not be able to be developed and will fall back quickly throughout the season.

RP have a better wind tunnel, for the time being, the most successful chassis concept, and what's looking like the best powertrain and suspension, as well as the W11's footsteps to follow. It's a formidable combination, and not to be underestimated I predict. McLaren will have to be very good to beat it, but let's see. They have a driver advantage at least.

In fairness I probably got a bit carried away when I said they'll "fall back quickly". I meant, I feel their development won't be much and they will fall back..at what rate, I don't Know..

[genarro]

yesterday i watched testing live and i think Crofty said that the chasiss and the bulk of the new RP20 is basically last years RP car. so the car is just a RP with some Merc parts. (wing and suspension). im not saying it wont be quick just that it is possible they will find flaw in their design and will have to write of this season or wont be able to develop it further..

We are still favourites for 4th this year

[the EDGE]

I don't think McLaren will be bringing any more new aero parts to Barcelona...

Lando Norris
“Overall, the day was productive, and we did pretty much everything we needed to on the run plan. Today was more about testing parts and the next two days will be more about setting up the car.”

Andrea Stella
"We plan to look a little bit more into performance and into long runs over the next couple of days"

[Darth-Piekus]

All I hope is at least in these last two days they show us something to see where they might possibly stand as they seem to have a lot of confidence regarding their targets.

[EddyBaggio]

All I hope is at least in these last two days they show us something to see where they might possibly stand as they seem to have a lot of confidence regarding their targets.

Don’t hold your breath...

[Darth-Piekus]

Why do you say that?

[101FlyingDutchman]

Because it’s been said time and time again that it’s not really required to push the limits. May well push limit of the engine but on harder tires and full fuel, no need to do this on softest.
Vice versa. You could do quali sims in a power mode that isn’t quali and still get all the data you need

[Darth-Piekus]

What about the other midfield teams?Are they doing glory runs?

[101FlyingDutchman]

Other than the Kubica run on the softest rubber I’m not sure we have seen anything that’s close to a full on quali sim

[fouad1979]

Because it’s been said time and time again that it’s not really required to push the limits. May well push limit of the engine but on harder tires and full fuel, no need to do this on softest.
Vice versa. You could do quali sims in a power mode that isn’t quali and still get all the data you need

i prefer kick Racing point ass in melborne cause they think they are even faster then ferrari