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MtthsMlw wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:59
xtrmayo wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:34
Hey guys, I am looking for best sector times per driver for each day of testing last week, and also a place I can find these in the future so I don't have to ask this question again. Sorry if this has already been posted, but I have been searching for hours...

I saw this screen shot of today's data, though I don't know what app it is:

https://imgur.com/gallery/AnCyivd
That's from the offical F1 App, you need do pay for it though. With F1 TV Access you can get live timing and some other stuff.
I do have F1TV so I will have access to this. I suppose it only shows up while it is live. I can't seem to find a way to go back and see best sectors from the testing last week though which is what I am looking for.

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xtrmayo wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 23:06
MtthsMlw wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:59
xtrmayo wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:34
Hey guys, I am looking for best sector times per driver for each day of testing last week, and also a place I can find these in the future so I don't have to ask this question again. Sorry if this has already been posted, but I have been searching for hours...

I saw this screen shot of today's data, though I don't know what app it is:

https://imgur.com/gallery/AnCyivd
That's from the offical F1 App, you need do pay for it though. With F1 TV Access you can get live timing and some other stuff.
I do have F1TV so I will have access to this. I suppose it only shows up while it is live. I can't seem to find a way to go back and see best sectors from the testing last week though which is what I am looking for.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jV78b ... G1tRGfW7e0

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thanks Polite
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something interesting.. Leclerc's best lap at that moment with all yellow sectors.. Vettel ran slow on 1, 2 sectors and made 26.015 on third one.. IMHO it's sandbagging not cutting the chicane but I can be wrong

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Ferrari’s times seem to be ‘specifically’ consistent. 1:18.1(ish) for both drivers has been the same across all 4 days of testing. Could indicate their maximum potential, but it seems (to me) to be more likely that they’re running to a delta.

As Leclerc said in an interview - they think they are behind (as I think is the general consensus) but not that it’s the end of the world as the media has implied with things like they car doesn’t work’, etc. I think they’ll be ‘there or there abouts’ as others have said.

All in all, I’m maintaining hope for a competitive season.

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Pyrone89 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:33
Phil wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 18:17
Shamefully copied some impressions from Ben Anderson off the Autosport ticker:

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[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I spent the best part of an hour in the early stages of Wednesday's afternoon session watching trackside at the high-speed esses of Turns 7 and 8.

"Obviously this is only a brief snapshot, and it's difficult to compare like for like based on differing test programmes between teams, but nevertheless here are my first impressions of F1 2020, close-up.

"The [b]Red Bull-Honda[/b] was arguably the standout car. Max Verstappen was braking insanely late for this section, noticeably later even than Valtteri Bottas in the Mercedes, and could pick up the throttle earlier than anyone else at the apex of 7. The most impressive thing was the car seemingly gave Max absolutely no trouble, lap after lap it looked like it was on rails. However, it also looked as though it was arriving at reduced speed compared to the other top cars, so perhaps is running in a detuned state engine-wise for now, which would also help explain why he was so late on the brakes and early back on the throttle."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"The [b]Mercedes[/b] looked predictably impressive, not quite as obviously painted to the road as the RB16 but still very strong. It looked ever so slightly lazy mid-corner, but was most likely running fat with fuel. Certainly there is a feeling elsewhere in the paddock that the W11 is still the car to beat, and it's hard to argue with that based on last week's lap times, even if I didn't seen the best of it today."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I feel the [b]Ferrari[/b] is slightly behind the other two at this stage. The car looks decent enough on entry but then appears to lose grip mid-corner. I've heard there was a concern last week from Sebastian Vettel about the Ferrari having too much understeer and that tallies with my visual impression. Leclerc was having to use much more of the road on the exit of 7, thus tightening his approach to 8, because the car just would not fully comply as he re-applied the power mid-corner."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"Of the rest, I saw a decent amount of the [b]McLaren, Racing Point[/b] and [b]Haas[/b]. I would put McLaren marginally ahead of Racing Point based on what I saw. Lance Stroll was chasing Lando Norris around for several laps and Norris gradually edged away. He was able to carry a bit more speed into Turn 7 without the car biting him, whereas Stroll had a massive rear slide while trying to re-apply power mid-corner on one lap so had to rein it in thereafter.

"The [b]McLaren[/b] looks Red Bull-esque in terms of balance but without the same level of overall grip. The Racing Point clearly inspires confidence on entry, but can't quite hold on to the same degree as the McLaren mid-corner."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"The [b]Haas[/b] looked difficult to drive - reasonably fast, but Romain Grosjean always needed the full width of the circuit to navigate this section on his flying laps and had a few big moments as the car refused to comply with his demands. It looks as though it maybe has a similar problem to the Ferrari in terms of front end grip, but to a greater extreme. Grosjean certainly found it difficult to repeat his ideal racing line consistently."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I also got some brief impressions of the [b]AlphaTauri[/b], [b]Alfa Romeo[/b] and [b]Williams.[/b] The AlphaTauri, as you might expect, looks pretty much like a low-resolution Red Bull - well balanced but not blessed with high overall levels of downforce; Kimi Raikkonen looked ill at ease with the front end response of the Alfa initially and disappeared into the pits, so some work was needed to dial that car in for him; the Williams was noticeably slower than the rest entering this section, but in fairness that was very early into George Russell's run programme so there may be more in that car I haven't seen yet. "[/quote]
No comments on the Renault, as they weren't running when he was trackside.

FYI.
Thanks.

Only big problem I have with Anderson is that he seems to have a sense of picking exactly the wrong horse every year. If Ferrari and Red Bull would have gotten the best car every time he pronounced so we wouldn't be fearing the 7th year of sustained Mercedes dominance.
I wonder how they have a job and call themselves "Experts" and "Technical Editors". To me their understanding of F1 is at a level of an elementary school kids.

I have digged a similar post from last year about his assessment!

viewtopic.php?p=817000#p817000

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JPBD1990 wrote:
27 Feb 2020, 08:37
Ferrari’s times seem to be ‘specifically’ consistent. 1:18.1(ish) for both drivers has been the same across all 4 days of testing. Could indicate their maximum potential, but it seems (to me) to be more likely that they’re running to a delta.

As Leclerc said in an interview - they think they are behind (as I think is the general consensus) but not that it’s the end of the world as the media has implied with things like they car doesn’t work’, etc. I think they’ll be ‘there or there abouts’ as others have said.

All in all, I’m maintaining hope for a competitive season.
For me its pretty clear that they are running to a delta, there is a lot of potential to extract from this car. The consensus about who is faster is clear because Mercedes looks so strong that I would be surprised if Ferrari is faster, though I hope it hahaha.

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any good tv streams for today guys?

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Seems damp out there...we might have a slow start today..


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seeing a wet track was something of a surprise :D

edit: Cheers Wouter =D> 8)

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GPR-A wrote:
27 Feb 2020, 09:24
Pyrone89 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:33
Phil wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 18:17
Shamefully copied some impressions from Ben Anderson off the Autosport ticker:

Code: Select all


[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I spent the best part of an hour in the early stages of Wednesday's afternoon session watching trackside at the high-speed esses of Turns 7 and 8.

"Obviously this is only a brief snapshot, and it's difficult to compare like for like based on differing test programmes between teams, but nevertheless here are my first impressions of F1 2020, close-up.

"The [b]Red Bull-Honda[/b] was arguably the standout car. Max Verstappen was braking insanely late for this section, noticeably later even than Valtteri Bottas in the Mercedes, and could pick up the throttle earlier than anyone else at the apex of 7. The most impressive thing was the car seemingly gave Max absolutely no trouble, lap after lap it looked like it was on rails. However, it also looked as though it was arriving at reduced speed compared to the other top cars, so perhaps is running in a detuned state engine-wise for now, which would also help explain why he was so late on the brakes and early back on the throttle."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"The [b]Mercedes[/b] looked predictably impressive, not quite as obviously painted to the road as the RB16 but still very strong. It looked ever so slightly lazy mid-corner, but was most likely running fat with fuel. Certainly there is a feeling elsewhere in the paddock that the W11 is still the car to beat, and it's hard to argue with that based on last week's lap times, even if I didn't seen the best of it today."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I feel the [b]Ferrari[/b] is slightly behind the other two at this stage. The car looks decent enough on entry but then appears to lose grip mid-corner. I've heard there was a concern last week from Sebastian Vettel about the Ferrari having too much understeer and that tallies with my visual impression. Leclerc was having to use much more of the road on the exit of 7, thus tightening his approach to 8, because the car just would not fully comply as he re-applied the power mid-corner."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"Of the rest, I saw a decent amount of the [b]McLaren, Racing Point[/b] and [b]Haas[/b]. I would put McLaren marginally ahead of Racing Point based on what I saw. Lance Stroll was chasing Lando Norris around for several laps and Norris gradually edged away. He was able to carry a bit more speed into Turn 7 without the car biting him, whereas Stroll had a massive rear slide while trying to re-apply power mid-corner on one lap so had to rein it in thereafter.

"The [b]McLaren[/b] looks Red Bull-esque in terms of balance but without the same level of overall grip. The Racing Point clearly inspires confidence on entry, but can't quite hold on to the same degree as the McLaren mid-corner."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"The [b]Haas[/b] looked difficult to drive - reasonably fast, but Romain Grosjean always needed the full width of the circuit to navigate this section on his flying laps and had a few big moments as the car refused to comply with his demands. It looks as though it maybe has a similar problem to the Ferrari in terms of front end grip, but to a greater extreme. Grosjean certainly found it difficult to repeat his ideal racing line consistently."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I also got some brief impressions of the [b]AlphaTauri[/b], [b]Alfa Romeo[/b] and [b]Williams.[/b] The AlphaTauri, as you might expect, looks pretty much like a low-resolution Red Bull - well balanced but not blessed with high overall levels of downforce; Kimi Raikkonen looked ill at ease with the front end response of the Alfa initially and disappeared into the pits, so some work was needed to dial that car in for him; the Williams was noticeably slower than the rest entering this section, but in fairness that was very early into George Russell's run programme so there may be more in that car I haven't seen yet. "[/quote]
No comments on the Renault, as they weren't running when he was trackside.

FYI.
Thanks.

Only big problem I have with Anderson is that he seems to have a sense of picking exactly the wrong horse every year. If Ferrari and Red Bull would have gotten the best car every time he pronounced so we wouldn't be fearing the 7th year of sustained Mercedes dominance.
I wonder how they have a job and call themselves "Experts" and "Technical Editors". To me their understanding of F1 is at a level of an elementary school kids.

I have digged a similar post from last year about his assessment!

viewtopic.php?p=817000#p817000
Very simple. They are self-appointed experts endorsed by their followers because they only say what their followers would like to hear.

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etusch wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 20:35
Williams has already been forced to move onto its third engine of pre-season testing after a string of issues with the Mercedes power unit.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/will ... s/4697071/
If I was a Mercedes power unit I would be stressed out being put in a Williams car that had so much in common with last years version!

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GPR-A wrote:
27 Feb 2020, 09:24
Pyrone89 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:33
Phil wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 18:17
Shamefully copied some impressions from Ben Anderson off the Autosport ticker:

Code: Select all


[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I spent the best part of an hour in the early stages of Wednesday's afternoon session watching trackside at the high-speed esses of Turns 7 and 8.

"Obviously this is only a brief snapshot, and it's difficult to compare like for like based on differing test programmes between teams, but nevertheless here are my first impressions of F1 2020, close-up.

"The [b]Red Bull-Honda[/b] was arguably the standout car. Max Verstappen was braking insanely late for this section, noticeably later even than Valtteri Bottas in the Mercedes, and could pick up the throttle earlier than anyone else at the apex of 7. The most impressive thing was the car seemingly gave Max absolutely no trouble, lap after lap it looked like it was on rails. However, it also looked as though it was arriving at reduced speed compared to the other top cars, so perhaps is running in a detuned state engine-wise for now, which would also help explain why he was so late on the brakes and early back on the throttle."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"The [b]Mercedes[/b] looked predictably impressive, not quite as obviously painted to the road as the RB16 but still very strong. It looked ever so slightly lazy mid-corner, but was most likely running fat with fuel. Certainly there is a feeling elsewhere in the paddock that the W11 is still the car to beat, and it's hard to argue with that based on last week's lap times, even if I didn't seen the best of it today."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I feel the [b]Ferrari[/b] is slightly behind the other two at this stage. The car looks decent enough on entry but then appears to lose grip mid-corner. I've heard there was a concern last week from Sebastian Vettel about the Ferrari having too much understeer and that tallies with my visual impression. Leclerc was having to use much more of the road on the exit of 7, thus tightening his approach to 8, because the car just would not fully comply as he re-applied the power mid-corner."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"Of the rest, I saw a decent amount of the [b]McLaren, Racing Point[/b] and [b]Haas[/b]. I would put McLaren marginally ahead of Racing Point based on what I saw. Lance Stroll was chasing Lando Norris around for several laps and Norris gradually edged away. He was able to carry a bit more speed into Turn 7 without the car biting him, whereas Stroll had a massive rear slide while trying to re-apply power mid-corner on one lap so had to rein it in thereafter.

"The [b]McLaren[/b] looks Red Bull-esque in terms of balance but without the same level of overall grip. The Racing Point clearly inspires confidence on entry, but can't quite hold on to the same degree as the McLaren mid-corner."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"The [b]Haas[/b] looked difficult to drive - reasonably fast, but Romain Grosjean always needed the full width of the circuit to navigate this section on his flying laps and had a few big moments as the car refused to comply with his demands. It looks as though it maybe has a similar problem to the Ferrari in terms of front end grip, but to a greater extreme. Grosjean certainly found it difficult to repeat his ideal racing line consistently."[/quote]

[quote="Ben Anderson"]"I also got some brief impressions of the [b]AlphaTauri[/b], [b]Alfa Romeo[/b] and [b]Williams.[/b] The AlphaTauri, as you might expect, looks pretty much like a low-resolution Red Bull - well balanced but not blessed with high overall levels of downforce; Kimi Raikkonen looked ill at ease with the front end response of the Alfa initially and disappeared into the pits, so some work was needed to dial that car in for him; the Williams was noticeably slower than the rest entering this section, but in fairness that was very early into George Russell's run programme so there may be more in that car I haven't seen yet. "[/quote]
No comments on the Renault, as they weren't running when he was trackside.

FYI.
Thanks.

Only big problem I have with Anderson is that he seems to have a sense of picking exactly the wrong horse every year. If Ferrari and Red Bull would have gotten the best car every time he pronounced so we wouldn't be fearing the 7th year of sustained Mercedes dominance.
I wonder how they have a job and call themselves "Experts" and "Technical Editors". To me their understanding of F1 is at a level of an elementary school kids.

I have digged a similar post from last year about his assessment!

viewtopic.php?p=817000#p817000
On the plus side, he can spell and is semi-literate...

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anyone with the same problem?

I can't turn off the audio commentary on F1TV.

FX doesn't work...
:|

Dont't need this annoying blabbing... :?
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